How to Get Started Collecting Early Gold

By Doug Winter on December 16, 2011 11:09 AM

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VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA (Commodity Online): Majority of the investors who took part in the 2010 Resource Investor Survey felt that gold prices will reach $1500 by end of 2010, according to Dig Media Inc.

Dig Media recently conducted its Resources Investing News 2010 Survey to gauge the interests of its readers and gain insight into investors’ perception of the markets.

The survey results showed that nearly 69 percent of respondents said they believe the price of gold will reach $1500 before the end of 2010. This bullish sentiment is most likely supported by the increasing flight-to-safety climate currently taking shape in Europe and North America as investors contemplate the likelihood of a slow economic recovery and the possibility of a double-dip recession.

Our audience is very focused on the resource investing market and as such has some interesting insights into the current state of the market,” said Nick Smith, Publisher at Dig Media. “Our reporters have taken these results and are digging into the background to provide readers with some interesting insights on the market overall and specifically in gold, uranium, copper and oil and gas.”

It’s not surprising that such a high percentage of respondents would answer yes when many analysts this past month have been calling for $1500 gold this year or next, including commodities analysts at Citibank, Macquarie Securities, UBS AG and Fairfax IS plc, Dig Media said.

Quoting Wayne Atweel, Managing Director at Casimir Capital and former Morgan Stanley Managing Director, the Gold Investing News brought out by Dig Media said that the longer term outlook for gold prices is rather bullish with the precious metal at $1500 to $2000 an ounce within the next one to three years, his short-term outlook goes against the grain, pegging gold as trading in a band between $1100 and $1300 an ounce through the end of the year.

When gold hedge won’t do, consider investing in silver

If you’re a gold investor, you have to be worried about an unwonted outbreak of good news. What if the economy doesn’t enter hyperinflation? What if peace breaks out, or the world’s terrorists scare themselves to death? Gold rarely thrives on good news, so you might consider adding silver to your portfolio. Like gold, silver is a good investment if paper money collapses. But unlike gold, silver is also an industrial metal, and demand for silver should rise in an economic recovery. As an added bonus: An ounce of silver is far cheaper than an ounce of gold.

 Like gold, silver is widely used as a medium of exchange when paper money loses its value. It’s a good store of value, and easier to carry around than chickens or canned hams. Silver and gold have been rising in the past few years, and with good reason:

 •U.S. government debt is now $8.6 trillion, or $13 trillion if you include intragovernmental holdings, such as the Social Security trust fund. The nation has the option of using a mix of tax increases and budget cuts to reduce the budget deficit and, ultimately, the debt. It also has the option of inflating its way out of the debt. Gold’s rise in price reflects the widespread notion that we will use the printing press to reduce our debt.

 •The euro has been sinking the past few weeks, as the world tries to figure out if Europe will be able to stabilize its more fiscally creative members, particularly Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Spain. Whenever the future of a currency is in doubt, investors look for an alternative, such as gold or silver.

Gold has soared from $258 an ounce in March 2001 to $1,221 Thursday, a 373% gain. Silver has trailed gold slightly during the same period, rising from $4.30 an ounce to $18.34, a 327% gain. If you buy any precious metal now, you’re certainly not getting in on the ground floor. But the metals may still have some room to run. “This is the best environment to invest in precious metals,” says Shanquan Li, manager of Oppenheimer Gold & Special Minerals fund. “The worldwide currency problem isn’t easily solved.”

 Industrial uses

 Unlike gold, silver also has myriad industrial uses. It’s a great conductor, so it’s in widespread use in electronics. The chemical industry uses about 700 tons of silver a year, according to The Silver Institute, an industry trade group. And it’s an effective antibiotic, useful in water purification, which accounts for its appearance in the portfolio of the Kinetics Water Infrastructure fund (ticker: KWICX).

 Should the global economy recover, silver should have some additional upside, says Joe Foster, co-manager of Van Eck Global Hard Assets (GHAAX). “I expect silver to outperform gold, because it has some industrial applications as well,” Foster says.

 If you’re interested in investing in silver, you have a number of choices:

 •Physical. The most cost-effective way to buy silver is in large bars, says David Beahm, vice president of economic research at Blanchard & Co., a New Orleans precious metals dealer. Those are a problem if you only want to sell a quarter of your bar, he notes. Most people buy 1-ounce silver coins. “Look for the coins with the lowest premium, whatever that might be — American Eagles or other 1-ounce coins.” A premium is the coin’s markup from the silver spot price. You can also buy bags of “junk” silver — pre-1965 silver coins — but those, too, are cumbersome. Try hauling around $5,000 in quarters some time.

 Bear in mind that you’ll have to store your silver somewhere, and that depends, to some extent, on how much you trust your neighbors. If you put your silver in a bank safe-deposit box, your rental fees will eat into any profit.

 •Exchange traded funds. Several ETFs now invest in physical silver, which makes the problem of storage much easier. If you’re worried about a financial collapse, however, your silver shares won’t go far at the corner grocery store.

 •Silver-mining stocks. Silver is typically a byproduct of something else, and so there are few pure plays in silver. But silver stocks aren’t followed as closely as gold-mining stocks, says Oppenheimer’s Li, and that can be an advantage.

 One interesting silver stock: Silver Wheaton (SLW), which buys silver production upfront for a fixed cost from miners, typically as a byproduct. Its cost of silver in the first quarter was $4.04 per ounce.

 Silver is a highly speculative investment, and if you’re worried about taking losses, then you should be investing elsewhere. But if you think the world is in trouble — but are willing to admit you could be wrong — silver is one way to go.

 John Waggoner is a personal finance columnist for USA TODAY. His Investing column appears Fridays. His book,Bailout: What the Rescue of Bear Stearns and the Credit Crisis Mean for Your Investments, is available through John Wiley & Sons. Click here for an index of Investing columns. His e-mail is jwaggoner@usatoday.com. Twitter: www.twitter.com/johnwaggoner.

What Gold Can (and Can’t) Do For You

It wasn’t so long ago when the Euro was flying high and some experts were predicting that the dollar could be replaced as the world’s reserve currency because of the United States’ ballooning deficit. Now, there are fears that Greece could default on its debt and even the Euro may cease to exist. The dollar has made gains against the Euro, but the real winner in this debt crisis can’t be printed by central banks. It must be harvested by miners: gold.

While the Euro has taken a hit, gold has shot up to all-time highs, above $1,200 per ounce. Investors must decide for themselves whether or not commodities like gold belong in their portfolio, but for those who want to know what all the fuss is about, here are a few things to know:

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It has never been easier to invest in gold. Exchange-traded funds have revolutionized investors’ access to commodities. “The ease and liquidity of ETFs have really opened up commodities in general as a new asset class for investors,” says Tom Lydon, editor of ETFTrends.com. “In the past, for investors to buy gold, they either have to buy the coins or the bullion, and now in the form of ETFs there’s a whole variety of options,” Lydon says. In addition to buying gold through futures contracts, investing in physical gold—bars in underground vaults—through ETFs is now possible.

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Gold can diversify. A small amount of gold can limit the overall volatility of your portfolio because it often performs differently from mainstay investments like stocks and bonds. “Gold and some other types of commodities are what you call non-correlating assets, so they tend to move independently of overall moves in the market,” says John Diehl, senior vice president in the retirement division at the Hartford. Gold sometimes reacts differently to market selloffs, which can help offset losses in stocks.

Gold as a reserve currency. The past few weeks have been a roller coaster ride for stock investors, punctuated by steep falloffs and strong rallies. The market’s behavior is partly due to worries that debt problems in some European countries like Greece could spread to other parts of the European Union and damage the Euro. The dollar has rallied somewhat in responses, but the United States has debt problems of its own.

The world’s primary reserve currency—the most commonly held currency by central banks around the world—is still the dollar, but when fear strikes the market, many investors flock to the safety of gold. “It’s not irrational that people are buying more gold right now because in the past, you had two reserve currencies, potentially, then you were down to one with the Euro, and now you may be down to none for a while, so gold is really the ultimate reserve currency,” says Paul Zemsky, head of asset allocation for ING Investment Management. “It’s the only thing that holds its value even if central bankers and governments are eroding the value of their own currency.” When there are global concerns about monetary policy, Zemsky says, gold will benefit from a flight to quality.

It has been a good, long run. The shiny metal set record highs last week. Diehl says he is worried that some investors who are new to commodities may not know what they’re getting into. “If fear in the market is at a high and everyone you talk to is saying, ‘Hey, you should put your money in gold,’ as a contrarian investor, that should be somewhat of an alarm to say, ‘Is this really the right thing to do? When everybody says, ‘Now is the right time to buy anything,’ you can generally feel fairly confident that it probably isn’t,” he says. A general rule of investing, Diehl says, is to look for asset classes that seem to be undervalued, and gold could be reaching its peak price.

Gold can be extremely volatile. Gold can provide diversification, but investors should be aware of the risks of investing in commodities. “Gold is really a precautionary hedge and not something your whole portfolio should be in,” Zemsky says. He recommends that investors only have 3 to 5 percent of their overall portfolio in gold. Diehl is even more cautious. “A singular bet on gold is, at its core, still a singular bet,” he says. “Just as emotions are volatile, the price of gold is a pretty volatile asset.” He suggests finding a fund that invests in a broad basket of commodities and not just in gold alone. Two popular choices are PIMCO Commodity Real Return Strategy Fund (PCRAX) and PowerShares DB Commodity Index Tracking Fund (DBC).

Gold Ready for New Highs?

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As I write this mid-day on Monday, gold has addded more than five percent to recover from of its intraday lows 10 days ago. It is about $1,100 at the moment.

It looks like the $1,108 level is one that would signal to technical traders to again jump in to buy. If gold can get and hold that level, and there is a good possibility it will occur this week, then it’s highly likely that gold will generally rise in the short term to pass the early December 2009 all-time high of about $1,212. It won’t go in a straight line, but it could rise so quickly that it will amaze people.

Once gold reaches a new record high, the odds are that it would pause for some profit-taking before again rising up to even higher levels.

There continues to be so much demand for physical gold (versus paper gold contracts) relative to the available supply, that many would-be buyers seeking immediate delivery in the London market are having their orders rejected by every trading house on that exchange.

London is the world’s largest gold trading center, so larger buyers frequently try to place their orders there. The London Bullion Market Exchange trades contracts for physical delivery of gold. In theory, the trading houses on the exchange have the physical gold to deliver on maturing contracts. It does not make sense for these firms to reject orders on which they would make a profit. With multiple reports of great difficulty experienced by buyers seeking delivery of London contracts, a great suspicion is raised that the physical gold may not all be there.

I would not be surprised if, within a month, a two-tier market develops between the physical and the paper gold spot prices. If this happens, the price for physical is almost certain to be significantly higher. The lower price for paper gold contracts reflects the risk that the seller of the contracts would default. Obviously, a buyer who takes custody of physical gold has no risk of seller default.

The recent major snowstorms in the eastern part of the United States have disrupted U.S. Mint production and delivery of gold and silver American Eagles. The U.S. Mint headquarters in Washington, D.C., was closed Feb. 8-11. Both the Philadelphia and West Point, N.Y., mints, the manufacturers of most Eagle products, closed on Feb. 10. The receipt of planchets to make the coins, the production of the coins, and the shipment of finished product were all interrupted. This has made existing supply shortages even more of a problem.

Even better than the positive outlook for gold, silver seems hugely undervalued at today’s levels. Silver fell more than 20 percent from its early December peak, with the result that the gold/silver ratio is now above 70. The long-term forecasts I have seen for this ratio range from about 10 to 50, so all of the analysts behind these projections like silver’s prospects better than gold.

My own long-term expectation is for a gold/silver ratio of about 35 to 40. If our analyses are correct, silver’s price should appreciate far more than that of gold.

It should be no surprise that most of the action in physical metals in the past two weeks has been in the silver market. It is almost unanimously one-way traffic, with buyers eager to buy but almost no liquidation by owners. As a result, premiums are rising and delivery times are stretching out into the future, with some products already having expected delivery of more than one month. Supplies are not yet as tight as they were in late 2008, but they are going in that direction.

Physical gold products are relatively available, though U.S. Buffaloes are up in premium and not that easy to find. Once the price of gold starts to rise to new heights, I anticipate that supplies will dry up, just as we are now experiencing with silver. Between now and the end of March, the precious metals markets could get very exciting.

Patrick A. Heller owns Liberty Coin Service in Lansing, Mich., and writes “Liberty’s Outlook,” the company’s monthly newsletter on rare coins and precious metals subjects. Past newsletter issues can be viewed at http://www.libertycoinservice.com. Other commentaries are available at Financial Sense University (www.financialsense.com). His periodic radio interviews on WILS-1320 AM can be heard at http://www.amlansing.com and on the Korelin Economic Report at http://www.kereport.com.

Premiums Decline on Older Gold

Metals stocks and bullion-related coins seem to be signaling some continued weakness in gold and silver. Gold is hammering away at the lower end of its recent trading range with silver following. Thus far the $1,100 level has held. Platinum while off its high is well above recent levels on continued ETF demand.

Older U.S. eagles and double eagles have again lost premium in the most commonly traded grades and there is definite absence of any aggressive buyers in the market. High-grade and small-size issues are moderately active with some pluses and some minuses. Proof gold American Eagles are quiet with few buyers seeking them at current levels. Proof silver Eagles remain strong and business strike 2010 issues have come down in premium slightly in anticipation of large shipments available next week (about when you receive this issue). Demand remains strong for all silver-related bullion issues.

Type coins remain active with very optimistic reports regarding Seated issues of all denominations with special emphasis on scarcer dates and by variety. There is a continued scarcity of all better date Barber issues especially in grades F-12 to EF-40.

Aggressive buyers go for half cents, large cents and three cents with emphasis on the tiny silver issues, which in my opinion are much underpriced in VF to EF grades.

Historic Hoards Echo in Population Reports

There have always been some mixed emotions when it comes to hoards. It’s probably natural if you are a collector or dealer to have a concern about hoards and the possibility that one might appear and cause a sharp decline in the price of a coin you own.

The classic instance of that happening occurred to collectors owning 1903-O Morgan dollars back in 1962. They thought that they had a $1,500 coin only to see it fall to $15 seemingly overnight as hundreds of thousands of examples were released by the Treasury.

It would be hard to convince them that hoards are good.

On the other side of the matter, there is the very real fact that a hoard can make a certain coin much more available and at a much more reasonable price than was previously the case. This allows many collectors who otherwise would never have owned something to be able to acquire it.

The discovery of roughly 5,400 examples of the 1857-S Coronet Head double eagle on the sunken wreck of the S.S. Central America made not only the date available, but it also made it possible for many to have a chance to have a Mint State Coronet Head double eagle and one that was produced from the early days of the San Francisco Mint.

Without that recovery of 5,400 examples of the 1857-S from their underwater resting place, the possibilities of owning a nice Mint State double eagle from San Francisco in the 1850s would definitely be reduced and that is just one of many examples.

The discovery, promotion and original sale of hoard coins is just one part of the story. That may be the most exciting part of the story, but after the hoard coins are dispersed, how well do they really hold up in terms of price? In fact, there may be no single answer for the simple reason that there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of hoard coins.

In many cases, we simply do not have a name and story to attach to the numbers of one issue or another that are known today. That is especially true in the case of gold where hundreds and in a few cases even thousands of Mint State coins returned to the United States from primarily European bank vaults in the past half century.

There was no accounting of the numbers, but when you check the numbers seen at grading services today there is absolutely no doubt that there were substantial numbers.

Even in the cases where we know of specific hoards and likely numbers involved, it is unfair to expect that each and every hoard coin will show similar price movements. After all, they are part of a set and a set of large cents is not likely to move in price at the same rate as double eagles or silver dollars or Jefferson nickels. Consequently, we cannot really expect uniform results. That said, there is still a certain question as to just how well hoard coins have done in recent years, not when compared with each other, but perhaps when compared to other non-hoard dates of the same type.

One of the most famous hoards of all was the Randall Hoard. If you have collected large cents for more than three hours you have probably heard of the Randall Hoard. The story may not be quite in tune with the reality, but the fact remains that sometime in the late 1860s in Georgia there was a discovery of a significant number of large cents allegedly in a keg. The precise dates were debated as were an assortment of issues and the story over the years has evolved slightly but we have very solid evidence that five dates were found in some numbers in Mint State in the Randall Hoard.

The two most heavily represented dates were the 1818 and the 1820, with lesser numbers of the 1816, 1817 and 1819. We can say that with some certainty as the numbers of Mint State examples of the dates found at the grading services showed the 1818 having been seen 296 times at the Professional Coin Grading Service and 288 times at Numismatic Guaranty Corp. in Mint State, while the 1820 was seen 267 times at PCGS and 391 times at NGC. In comparison, the lowest numbers for any of the five dates were posted by the 1819, which appeared 81 times at each service. In the case of a date with a similar mintage from the period the combined total at the grading services was basically under 50.

Clearly the 1818 and 1820 are available in significantly higher numbers. Back in 1998 in MS-60 the 1818 was priced at $250 while the 1820 was $275. Today, in the same grade, the 1818 is $270 and the 1820 is at $300. It would appear that the dates are not doing well except for the fact that the large cents of the period in general have moved very little. The 1816 for example was $420 in 1998 and still is $420. Other dates have increased and usually more than the 1818 and 1820, so while perhaps increasing in price at a below average pace, it would be hard to say that the Randall Hoard dates are very different from other dates of the type.

The 1857-S double eagle found in such large numbers on the S.S. Central America, which sank in 1857 off the North Carolina coast, certainly has to be seen as an extreme test in terms of double eagles. It is not simply a case where the numbers are large, but it is also a case where the S.S. Central America is a relatively recent hoard.

The market has had very little time to really absorb what was over $100 million in sales. It is probably too early to expect the 1857-S, which was basically an available date in circulated grades but not a readily available date in Mint State, to show any signs of price increases. In fact, with very serious doubts that there are even 5,400 collectors of Mint State Coronet Head double eagles to absorb the supply, it would not be at all out of the question to expect the 1857-S to show some potentially serious price declines.

If you check the prices for the 1857-S back in 1998 in MS-60 it listed for $2,600 while an MS-63 was $10,000 with no price listed in higher grades. Today in MS-60 the 1857-S is at $4,500 while an MS-65 is at $7,250. It’s a very interesting situation and a somewhat volatile one as prices are all over the board depending on the price guide. The consensus, however, is that in MS-60 the 1857-S seems to have increased in price perhaps as publicity over the sale of the S.S. Central America coins encouraged some to want to acquire a lower cost example of a famous date.

The price decline in MS-63 may well be a case of this grade was actually hurt because there were suddenly significant numbers of higher grade examples. It is definitely an opposite trend from other Coronet Head double eagle dates. The question for the next few years is likely to be not what happens to the MS-60 or MS-63 prices, but rather how does an MS-65 or MS-66 fare at their current levels.

Another recent double eagle was one involving Saint-Gaudens double eagles. Called the Wells Fargo Hoard, the hoard involved 19,900 examples of the 1908 no motto double eagle. The number was extraordinary and so was the quality of the coins. The breakdown given to Q. David Bowers for his book A Guide Book of Double Eagle Gold Coins by Ron Gillio, who purchased the hoard, had 6,000+ in MS-66 with 1,700+ in MS-67.

These high grades were not just wishful thinking by the person buying the hoard. The coins have gone through the major grading services with stunning results. At PCGS, 793 Wells Fargo hoard coins were called MS-67 compared to 38 that were not from the hoard.

At NGC the number of Wells Fargo MS-67 coins was 941 compared to 94 not from the hoard. There were similar numbers in other high grades. The impact of so many top quality examples of a single date almost had to have an impact.

The MS-65 listing of the no motto 1908 back in 1998 was $1,350 and today in MS-65 the price is $2,350. This is the cheapest of the “No Motto” type.

If MS-65 were the top grade available, then there would be considerable pressure on buyers to find and buy an MS-65. The Wells Fargo Hoard, however, has made MS-65 an average grade for this one date. Combined NGC and PCGS have graded over 6,400 Wells Fargo coins as MS-66 and 1,700 more as MS-67. Under the circumstances, buyers will seek those upper grades and not the MS-65 so there are more than just numbers potentially working against the MS-65 price of the “No Motto” 1908.

A dramatically different situation involving gold coins would be the gold dollars of 1879, 1880 and 1881. The three were low mintage, with the 1879 having a mintage of 3,030 while the 1880 was just 1,636 and the 1881 was 7,707. The three should have all been tough dates, but back at the time they were released someone saved examples. In fact. they saved hundreds of each.

We can see evidence in hundreds of each in Mint State reported by both PCGS and NGC. The hoards of the three were not all that well known, although it is a case where relatively few study and collect gold dollars. While we do not know the details of the hoard, we know that hundreds of each of the three dates are known and the MS-60 price of the three back in 1998 saw the 1879 at $700 while the 1880 and 1881 were each at $400. Today in MS-60 the 1879 is $525, the 1880 is $425 and the 1881 is $410.

There is simply no good way to make sense of that change. Ironically, the 1879 which declined the most in price is the least often seen of the three in highest grades, while the 1881 which actually increased in price in the highest Mint State grades has been graded more often than either of the other dates. There is no good way of explaining the changes, but every so often strange things happen in the market and this would have to qualify as one of those times.

If there is such a thing as a blue chip hoard coin, it is ironically a pattern as the 1856 Flying Eagle cent could not have been a coin even though it circulated simply because the law authorizing the Flying Eagle cent was passed in 1857. Over the years, few coins have been hoarded like the 1856, which seemed to always inspire speculation or at minimum a hoarding instinct.

George Rice of Detroit probably won the prize for the largest hoard of the 1856 with his accumulation numbered 756 pieces while close behind was John Andrew Beck of Pittsburgh, whose total included some from the Rice collection, reached 531.

In the case of the 1856 the numbers are small, but the percentage of the total mintage is large. Produced both in proof and also with a small number of business strikes there is no certainty regarding the 1856 mintage although perhaps 1,500 to 2,500 pieces would be a good range. Back in 1998 the 1856 was at $4,000 in G-4 and today that price is $6,250. In MS-65, the 1998 price was $21,000 and today that price is $65,000. Clearly as hoard coins go, the 1856 Flying Eagle cent continues to defy the other patterns by surging strongly to higher prices and in all grades.

There was a great deal of hoarding during the Civil War and some of that even reached down to copper-nickel cents. As a result, small groups of the copper-nickel cent dates have been reported over the years. The largest was discussed by Q. David Bowers in his book American Coin Treasures and Hoards” The group of probably 1,000 Mint State specimens of the 1862 was offered in a Thomas Elder auction in 1918. The group was significant based on the fact that PCGS has seen about 675 Mint State examples of the 1862 while NGC is at roughly 850. The 1998 prices for the 1862 in Mint State were $80 for an MS-60 and $575 for an MS-65. Today those listings are the same for an MS-60 but $1,050 for an MS-65. For a hoard coin that is not heavily publicized, that’s a strong MS-65 increase, although in reality it reflects a general increase in copper-nickel Indian cents prices in MS-65 as all dates have done basically the same thing in terms of price.

One of the more interesting dates that was heavily hoarded was the 1883 without “CENTS” Liberty Head nickel. No particular hoard can be discussed although groups of 100 or more were known. The 1883 without “CENTS” was simply hoarded by many as a new design. It was an unusual time for hoarding, but people then also hoarded the last couple years of the Shield nickel series. We see the proof in the fact that there are thousands of Mint State 1883 without “CENTS” nickels reported at the grading services and that produced 1998 prices of $32 in MS-60 and $300 in MS-65. Today those prices are $25 in MS-60 and $260 in MS-65, so clearly the extremely large numbers reported by the grading services are keeping the price down.

In his book, Bowers reports on the mysterious appearance on the market of hundreds of Mint State 1877-CC quarters in Mint State. It was an odd situation as traditionally there was very little saving of new coins at Carson City and even if there had been, the 1877-CC quarter with a mintage of nearly 4.2 million would have been an odd choice. That said, the observation of Bowers is supported by grading service totals, which show hundreds of examples of the 1877-CC in Mint State.

Since 1998, the 1877-CC which was at $375 in MS-60 has dropped to $325. Interestingly enough, that is still a premium over the most available Mint State Seated Liberty quarter dates of the type. Realistically the 1877-CC is one of those most available dates, but it happens to have a “CC” mintmark, which may be the only thing stopping it from further declines.

There is no doubt there have been a few Lincoln cents that were hoarded. It was reported that John Zug had some 25,000 examples of the 1909-S VDB, although that hoard was allegedly broken up before 1920. There were at least 10 or more rolls that hit the market in the 1950s, but the demand for the 1909-S VDB is so great that such numbers were drops in the bucket when it came to meeting demand.

Since 1998 the 1909-S VDB has gone from $720 in MS-60 and $1,800 in MS-65 to a current $1,825 in MS-60 and $6,850 in MS-65, proving that with enough demand no hoard can keep prices from rising. The situation with the Philadelphia 1909 VDB is slightly different. Its total numbers hoarded were much, much larger. There is solid demand for the 1909 VDB, also. Its 1998 prices of $9 in MS-60 and $39 in MS-65, respectively, have risen to $25 in MS-60 and $195 in MS-65.

A final Lincoln cent worth noting is the 1931-S. With a mintage below 1 million we know the 1931-S was hoarded. We can dispute the numbers hoarded with a Walter Breen claim that the Maurice Scharlack hoard had 200,000 pieces, which would have been about 25 percent of the entire mintage, but there is no doubt the 1931-S was heavily hoarded in Mint State and upper circulated grades. Since 1998 in Mint State the 1931-S has moved from $53 in MS-60 and $215 in MS-65 to a current $163 in MS-60 and $685 in MS-65.

Probably the most famous hoard coin of all time would be the 1950-D Jefferson nickel. We frankly do not know what percentage of its 2,630,030 mintage was hoarded initially, but somewhere on the order of 50 percent or more would be in the ballpark. A.J. Mitula of Houston, Texas, reportedly had 1 million pieces while another 320,000 were reported in Wisconsin and there were others with larger numbers involved.

The 1950-D soared in price during the 1950s and 1960s probably in part because all were tied up in hoards. Then it simply went into a coma, not moving for decades. In 1998 the 1950-D was $6.50 in MS-60 and $9.50 in MS-65. Today it sits at $18 in MS-60 and $30 in MS-65.

It is certainly a mixed bag when it comes to prices of hoard coins. Greater numbers should hold prices down, but a good story or heavy demand for the whole series can still lift prices higher.