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CAC Offers $20 Million For 1933 Double Eagles
By Certified Acceptance Corporation on July 24, 2011 9:06 PM
The Certified Acceptance Corp. (CAC) is offering to pay the U.S. government $20 million for the 10 highly publicized 1933 Saint-Gaudens double eagles recently found to be government property.
The offer is “solid,” and could even be increased following closer inspection of the coins, said John Albanese, founder and president of the New Jersey-based firm.
“Considering all the trouble the government is having with the deficit and the debt limit, this would be an easy way to cut 20 million dollars from the deficit,” Albanese said. “We’ll pay 20 million dollars sight-unseen – and maybe even more after inspection.
“I’ve read that the average American is in debt for $40,000,” he added. “This would pay the debt for 500 people. We see this as a way to do our share to help reduce the nation’s deficit.”
The 1933 “Saints” were at the center of a legal dispute stretching back to 2004, when they were submitted to the U.S. Treasury, ostensibly for authentication, by the family of a Philadelphia woman named Joan Langbord. The family said the coins had been found in the effects of Langbord’s father, Israel Switt, who died in 1990 at the age of 95.
The government determined that the coins were genuine – then confiscated them, saying they must have been stolen from the Philadelphia Mint because it would have been illegal to own them under Depression-era edicts and legislation in effect at the time.
Switt, a Philadelphia jeweler, was known to have sold coins he obtained from the nearby Mint, including a number of 1933 double eagles, but claimed to have acquired them legally through exchanges at the Mint for other coins. The Philadelphia Mint struck 445,500 examples of the ’33 Saint in early 1933 before production of gold coinage was halted and Americans were ordered to surrender most of the gold coins in their possession. All but a handful of the Saints were melted, making the survivors rare – but also subject to seizure in Uncle Sam’s eyes.
The Langbord family filed a civil suit seeking return of the 10 coins seized by the government. But on July 21, a Philadelphia jury decided that the coins rightfully belonged to the government.
A single specimen of the 1933 Saint, seized in a government sting in 1996, was sold at auction in 2002 after it came to light that Egypt’s King Farouk had been granted a U.S. export license for the coin after buying it in 1944. The coin brought $7.59 million, still the highest price ever paid at auction for a single coin.
There is general agreement that the price per coin would be lower, at least initially, if 10 more examples came on the market. But Albanese is confident that CAC would be able to recoup the $20 million – or $2 million per coin – it is offering.
“Seven or eight already are spoken for,” he said. “I have at least that many buyers ready and willing to purchase these coins if my offer is accepted by the government. And I wouldn’t mind at all if we ended up with the other two or three in our inventory.”
Albanese said CAC’s offer also is motivated by concern over what might happen to the 10 rare Saints now that the government controls their fate.
“I’d hate to see them melted. That would be a mistake,” he declared. “These are an important part of our numismatic heritage, and they should be entrusted to people who value and respect our nation’s coinage tradition.”
Albanese said the $20-million offer comes with “minimal contingencies.”
“This is not a publicity stunt; this is a serious offer,” he said. “And given the state of the economy, we feel it’s an offer that deserves serious consideration from the government.”
Since its inception in late 2007, CAC has become widely known and highly respected for its evaluation program. CAC experts examine coins previously certified by either the Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) or the Numismatic Guaranty Corporation of America (NGC), then affix a distinctive green sticker to the holder of each coin which, in their judgment, fully merits the grade that was assigned.
Some dealers and collectors are not as familiar with CAC’s emergence as a major buyer and seller of rare coins. To date, the company has purchased more than $200 million worth of coins. It also has processed more than 200,000 evaluation submissions with declared insurance value totaling more than $1 billion.
Further information about the company can be found at its Web site, www.caccoin.com.
Coin Rarities & Related Topics: The fate of ten Switt-Langbord 1933 Double Eagles ($20 gold coins)
By Greg Reynolds on July 20, 2011 8:31 AM
News and Analysis on scarce coins, markets, and the coin collecting community #62
A Weekly Column by Greg Reynolds
On July 7th, at the U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, a trial began regarding the fate of ten 1933 Double Eagles ($20 gold coins). The U.S. Treasury Department is pitted against the Switt-Langbord family. This trail has implications that go beyond the fate of these ten coins. In what circumstances should the Federal Government be enabled to seize rare coins from private citizens?
The Federal Government seized ten 1933 Double Eagles that the Switt-Langbord family held for many decades and had voluntarily shown to the U.S. Treasury Department in 2004. In 2006, the Switt-Langbord family sued the U.S. Treasury Department. They are demanding that these ten coins be returned. The trial is currently ‘in progress.’
In 1996, the U.S. Treasury Department seized a 1933 Double Eagle from Stephen Fenton, a British dealer. In 2001 or early 2002, the Treasury Department and Fenton, through their respective lawyers, negotiated. The ‘deal’ stipulated that this 1933 Double Eagle was to be auctioned, and after deducting a commission for an auction firm, the proceeds would be split between the U.S. Treasury and Fenton. On July 30, 2002, Sotheby’s, in partnership with Stack’s, sold the Fenton 1933 Double Eagle for $7,590,020, which remains an auction record for a coin. (Please see my article on coins that are worth more than $2 million each.)
During much of the 20th century, Switt was a dealer in Philadelphia. At the auction on July 30, 2002, bidders were unaware that Izzy Switt’s family had ten 1933 Double Eagles. Such a possibility, though, could very apparently be inferred from David Tripp‘s book, which was published in 2005. Another privately held 1933 Double Eagle is mentioned in Tripp’s book, and is pictured. In 2002, Armen Vartian, a well known lawyer for coin dealers, wrote that he had heard rumors from reliable sources of other privately held 1933 Double Eagles existing. Furthermore, QDB has written about reports of others existing. No one really knows how many are around. Two 1933 Double Eagles are in the Smithsonian.
In the 1940s, the U.S. Treasury Department seized or successfully demanded the forfeiture of several 1933 Double Eagles from collectors and dealers. Secret Service agents and other government employees devoted a considerable amount of time to pursuing 1933 Double Eagles.
“It is unbelievable to me how much the government has spent on this,” exclaims Dr. Steven Duckor. “It is ludicrous for the government to be spending this much time, effort and money in the 1940s, from 1996 to 2002, and now in the Langbord case. The government should spend money on more important priorities,” in Duckor’s view. “It would be okay to make a deal like they did last time. I would not mind some type of deal.” Dr. Duckor is an expert in Saint Gaudens Double Eagles. Among living collectors who reveal their names, he is probably the most sophisticated and widely respected.
Suppose that the U.S. Government prevails in this case. Will other coins or patterns be seized as well? Should owners of 19th century U.S. coins be worried? Should the U.S. Treasury Department have the option of seizing coins that are decades old, and widely accepted, from collectors? What are the implications of this trial for the coin collecting community?
I will address such questions in the future. Now, I review issues relating to the distribution and legitimacy of 1933 Double Eagles.
I. Radical Changes in March 1933
Those who argue that all currently existing 1933 Double Eagles were stolen point to the fact that there are not surviving records that specify formal releases of 1933 Double Eagles in specific shipments or to particular individuals ‘over the counter’ at the Philadelphia Mint. Indeed, surviving Mint Cashier’s records do not include entries for transactions of 1933 Double Eagles. Before discussing this point, it makes sense to briefly review the circumstances surrounding the production of 1933 Double Eagles.
The policies of President Franklin Roosevelt are pertinent to 1933 Double Eagles. During most of U.S. history, a newly elected or re-elected President was inaugurated in March, not January. Franklin D. Roosevelt was inaugurated on March 4, 1933. Afterwards, the U.S. Constitution was amended to require that inaugurations occur on Jan. 20th.
“On March 6, 1933, President Roosevelt issued Proclamation 2039, an order which closed all banks on this day,” Q. David Bowers writes in his book on Double Eagles. “Many institutions went into receivership or were acquired at bargain sales by their competitors” (QDB, “Double Eagle Gold Coins,” Whitman, 2004, p. 277). There was a banking crisis.
In her book on the Fenton 1933 Double Eagle, Alison Frankel mentions that “emergency banking legislation passed three days later [on March 9th]” which prevented banks from ‘paying out’ or exporting gold (Double Eagle, W. W. Norton, NY, 2006, p. 46). The use of paper money was encouraged. Robert W. Julian notes, though, that “the Federal Reserve System was given the authority, about March 13th, to pay out gold to banks under their jurisdiction” (ANS, Groves Lecture, 2002).
On April 5, President Roosevelt issued an executive order requiring private citizens to ‘turn in’ their respective gold by May 1st. Coins that were valued by collectors were exempt from this order. The exemption of collector coins was reinforced in 1934 with terms that made clear that gold coins that are “of recognized special value to collectors” could be legally held. Indeed, these could be bought, sold or otherwise traded.
By the end of March 1933, more than 100,000 1933 Double Eagles were minted. In April, more than 200,000 were minted.
Frankel writes, “An Assistant Treasury Secretary telegraphed to the Mint on March 7 that it was, in fact, ‘authorized to exchange gold coins or bars in exchange for bullion received.’” Earlier in the trial, David Tripp, a paid witness for the U.S. Treasury Department, stated that this telegram is an “orphan.” Later, under cross-examination, Tripp admitted that Tripp himself assigned the term “orphan” to this document. It does make clear that gold coins could be legally exchanged, and thus released from the U.S. Mint, after March 7th and before as well.
II. Trading of Regular Coins
Last week at the trial, Barry Berke, the primary attorney for the Switt-Langbord family, pointed out that there are no surviving records of gold for gold exchanges in the 1930s, though these were perfectly allowable and almost certainly did occur. (See Steve Roach’s report on Tripp’s testimony.) Moreover, Berke emphasized that there is no evidence that the Treasury Department was banning the U.S. Mint from exchanging gold coins for other gold coins. Indeed, none of the Presidential Orders, or Treasury Department commands before April 12th, prohibited ‘coin for coin’ trades. It would seem that trades of uncirculated $20 gold coins for other uncirculated $20 gold coins were legal even after the ‘paying out’ of gold was stopped.
Tripp testified that some contemporary requests for 1933 Double Eagles were denied. Ordering a coin from a distance is not the same as traveling to Philadelphia and implementing a trade ‘in person.’ More importantly, my impression is that the requests to which Tripp was referring occurred after April 12, 1933, perhaps some in 1934. By April 1933, the political climate had dramatically changed, and, by the summer of 1933, William Woodin was unable to serve as Secretary of the Treasury, due to an illness.
Treasury Department officials had to contend with a nationwide economic crisis and establishing guidelines for processing mail orders for 1933 Double Eagles was not on anyone’s mind at the Treasury Department. The point here is that in March, and very early April 1933, ‘coin for coin’ trades for 1933 Double Eagles probably occurred and such trades were considered a legitimate practice at the time.
Roger Burdette testified on July 18th. As I discussed in my Dec. 28th column, The Ten Leading Topics of 2010, Burdette discovered documents that show that the “first 1933 Double Eagles were struck March 2nd, during the Hoover administration.” Additionally, documents discovered by Burdette indicate that the Mint Cashier was provided with forty-three 1933 Double Eagles on March 4. According to Burdette, these “balanced” the accounting of the production of 1932 Double Eagles as some of the already counted 1932 Double Eagles were determined to be defective and thus replaced with 1933 Double Eagles.
So, there may have been 1933 Double Eagles available on March 4 at the ‘Cashier’s counter’ for collectors or dealers to obtain. If 1933 Double Eagles left the Mint in a situation where recordkeepers at the U.S. Mint listed them as being 1932 Double Eagles, would it make sense to assume that these were stolen?
Collectors and lawyers now seem to forget that, in the 1930s, only a few collectors and coin dealers cared about the dates on recently minted gold coins. To almost everyone else, a $20 gold coin was worth just that, twenty dollars. Few government officials and even fewer bankers cared whether a Saint Gaudens Double Eagle was dated 1924, 1928, 1929, 1931, 1932 or 1933. Twenty dollars was a significant amount of money in the 1930s, a sum that bought much more food and fuel than twenty dollars could be used to acquire in 2011. Most U.S. Mint officials at the time did not feel a need to keep specific track of the dates of each coin.
In David Tripp’s book on Fenton’s 1933 Double Eagle, Tripp provides an example of a private citizen trading an old Eagle ($10 gold coin) for a new 1933 Eagle ($10 gold coin) on March 1, 1933. Tripp notes that a record was kept of this trade. Because a record was kept of this trade, however, it does not follow that records were kept of all such trades or that it was policy to require records to be kept of all such trades. Indeed, it was established at the trial that there are records of four 1933 Eagles ($10 coins) being released, yet many more, at least eighteen in my estimation, are currently owned by collectors.
I strongly doubt that records were kept of most ‘gold coin for gold coin’ trades. By tradition, the trading of old coins for new coins, or the trading of common dates for better dates, was considered a legitimate practice and was not considered a ‘pay out’ of gold. Exchanges of gold bullion (metal in other forms) for gold coins, or gold certificates for gold coins were different matters.
“Historically, trading an old, worn coin for a bright new coin has been an integral part of a Mint tour, and whoever was manning the Cashier’s window would have thought nothing of it,” Tripp acknowledges (2004, NY, Simon & Shuster, p. 56). Note the phrase, “part of a Mint tour,” as Mint employees would be more likely to give receipts to people on a tour. A receipt could amount to another souvenir for a tourist. Besides, tourists often enjoy providing their names or even signing forms.
When I visited the CN Tower in Toronto, long ago, I found it curious that most of the other tourists enjoyed signing a log book in the observation area near the top. I watched several tourists read the names and comments left by other tourists. For many, such writing, reading and leaving ‘a record’ was part of the fun of visiting an historic place.
While a tourist may wish to announce his name at the Mint Cashier’s window, perhaps in front of other tourists, a serious collector may not wish to do so. Furthermore, a few collectors and dealers were ‘regulars’ at the Philadelphia Mint and were known to Mint Employees. It was no secret that such regulars wished to trade relatively common dates for better dates and/or obtain choice uncirculated representatives of new issues. Collectors of U.S. coins like to complete sets, and 1933 Double Eagles were then thought of as being needed to complete sets of Saint Gaudens Double Eagles.
During the history of the Philadelphia Mint, ‘coin for coin’ trades were not usually entered in the Cashier’s ledger or in other accounting books. My guess is that no one thought that there was a compelling reason to do so. Such trades were routine for many types of copper, nickel, silver and gold coins. Only a few collectors and dealers came to trade for new Double Eagles.
A 1928 Double Eagle and a 1933 Double contain the same amount of gold. If a collector or dealer came to the U.S. Mint in March and wanted to trade a 1928 Double Eagle for a 1933 Double Eagle, it is likely that such a trade would have been welcomed with a smile and probably no record would have been kept. It was such a routine, simple event that there would be no need to keep a record.
In the minds of most Mint Employees, Double Eagles were Double Eagles. As long as the total number of Double Eagles remained the same, the time and hassle of doing paperwork could be avoided to the satisfaction of everyone involved. My hunch is that they would have thought of it as ridiculous that investigators and lawyers, decades later, would obsess about the lack of records regarding each surviving Double Eagle.
III. Distribution and Melting
Attorneys for the Federal Government suggest that the U.S. Treasury Department never planned to release 1933 Double Eagles. I admit that I have not personally researched government records relating to 1933 Double Eagles. I am relying upon the writings of R.W. Julian, David Tripp, Alison Frankel, Roger Burdette and Q. David Bowers, plus conversations with Jay Parrino and David Krassner.
My analysis suggests that almost all U.S. Treasury Department officials did not care one way or the other whether 1933 Double Eagles were released. As long as it was still legal to ‘pay out’ gold coins, which it was until April 5th, U.S. Mint personnel did not care whether the Double Eagles ‘paid out’ were dated 1928, 1931, 1932 or 1933. It mattered only to collectors of then contemporary Double Eagles and to dealers who sold coins to such collectors. Few others cared.
In March 1933, high level U.S. Treasury Department officials were debating among themselves, with directions from the president, a radical, revolutionary new monetary policy. They probably did not have the time or inclination to even think about the dates on Double Eagles that collectors and dealers received in ‘coin for coin’ trades. They were concerned about the banking crisis and the Great Depression, which was devastating. It is not logical to conclude that they had an objection to a few 1933 Double Eagles being released, especially in ‘coin for coin’ trades.
In the mid 1930s, the Double Eagles that were still in the possession of the Philadelphia Mint were melted. “In addition to the 445,000 1933 Double Eagles, there were more than 900,000 other Double Eagles, most of them struck in 1928 or 1929,” melted, Tripp says (on page 72 of his book).
Certainly, before 1933, collectors and dealers traded Double Eagles of various dates for ones that they wanted. So, it is likely that the Philadelphia Mint must have had Double Eagles of a variety of dates, including some mintmarked Double Eagles that had been ‘trade-ins’! Regarding the 445,000 1933 Double Eagles that were stored at the Philadelphia Mint in the mid 1930s, “less various pieces that had strayed hither and yon,” QDB remarks, “not much care was paid to such things, and on occasion loose Double Eagles of unknown dates were seen strewn around the vault floors and, sometimes, no one knew where particular coins were being kept (QDB, 2004, p. 280).
Tripp is erroneously assuming that such records, in terms of the dates of the respective Double Eagles, should be taken literally. When the quantities of Double Eagles were verified, would Mint employees have taken the time to inspect the date on each one? My impression is that the accounting related to quantities of gold. “The columns in the ledgers balanced,” Tripp admits (p. 73). In my view, this indicates that no Double Eagles relevant to this case were stolen and that no one knows the precise ‘dates’ of all those that were melted.
“From the mid-1930s to 1944, the double eagles of 1933 were openly bought, sold, and displayed by collectors,” states R. W. Julian. “In The Numismatist [magazine] of the early 1940s, for example, the coins were even illustrated.” Julian adds, “On several occasions, [longtime U.S. Mint] Director Nellie Tayloe Ross wrote letters to the editor [of The Numismatist] correcting minor misstatements of one sort or another.” Officials at the U.S. Mint were aware of the trading of 1933 Double Eagles in the 1930s and early 1940s. No U.S. Mint official then openly stated that any of these were stolen.
IV. Destruction of Mint Records
Robert W. Julian has found that many of the Philadelphia Mint’s records from 1933 were destroyed in 1978. “The heavy destruction of records at the order of Stella Hackel in 1978 meant that perhaps five or ten percent of the original 1933 documents still exist,” asserts Julian.
To Bob’s “knowledge,” no researcher “had ever been through these papers looking for material on the 1933 Double Eagle” (ANS Groves Forum Speech, May 9, 2002). Julian asked to see the “1978 destruct lists,” which contained “perhaps fifty [to] one hundred pages of fine print.” So, U.S. Mint records relating to the acquisition of 1933 Double Eagles by dealers or collectors may have been destroyed.
V. Documentation of Transactions
William Woodin was the Secretary of the Treasury from March 1933 until he had to resign later in 1933 due to health issues. Undoubtedly, Woodin regarded it as legal for U.S. Mint personnel, or other U.S. Treasury Department officials, to trade coins and patterns with collectors. It seems likely that Woodin held that it was NOT necessary for such trades to be itemized in public records.
In 1910, William Woodin, then a famous and sophisticated collector, traded two Fifty Dollar gold denomination patterns to the U.S. Mint in return for multiple crates of other patterns. The patterns in the crates were not itemized in public records. Even so, this sale was authorized by high level U.S. Mint officials and the patterns then released have traded many times over the last century. Patterns are often included in collections of U.S. coins.
QDB reports that William Woodin and dealer Stephen Nagy knew “each other for decades.” R. W. Julian found that Nagy claimed that Woodin showed Nagy five 1933 Double Eagles in 1933, when Woodin was still the Secretary of the Treasury. (This claim by Nagy is discussed in an article by Julian that appeared in Numismatic News weekly in Oct. 2002 and QDB discusses this claim on page 282 of his book on “Double Eagle Gold Coins.”)
In regards to transactions involving Philadelphia Mint officials and Philadelphia area dealers, QDB states the indisputable point that “it was long-standing Mint practice to keep few records, not even on obvious items sold to collectors,” including famous rarities (p. 280).
R. W. Julian finds that releases of Proof half cents, cents, two cent pieces and nickels “dated prior to 1878 and pre-1860 gold and silver Proofs, with the exception of the Gobrecht dollars, were not” recorded in the sense that attorneys for the Federal Government are now claiming would have been necessary for 1933 Double Eagles to be legally released. Certainly, the thousands of such Proofs that were openly distributed were not stolen.
It could be fairly argued that records should have been kept for sales of rarities for amounts well over face value. From the 1790s to the 1930s, however, the consensus over time seems to have been that records were not needed when coins were exchanged with other coins, at face value, to suit collectors and dealers who visited the Philadelphia Mint.
©2011 Greg Reynolds
Trial Begins Over Double Eagle Gold Coins Valued at $80 Million
Augustus St. Gaudens, a sculptor and artist, designed the coin, which many collectors consider the most beautiful U.S. coin ever.
Only two, which were sent to the Smithsonian, were supposed to have survived.
But in 2003, the daughter and grandsons of storied Philadelphia jeweler Israel Switt drilled open a safety-deposit box. Inside that box, nestled among Switt’s belongings, sat a gray paper Wanamaker’s department store bag.
Now, nearly 80 years after the coins were struck, “The government simply wants its coins back,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jacqueline Romero told jurors in her opening statement on Thursday.
The United States says the coins are stolen property.
A small number – roughly 20 – were pilfered with help from a corrupt Philadelphia Mint cashier, Romero said.
“The only reason for their existence outside the Philadelphia Mint is that they were stolen,” Romero said. “Israel Switt was somehow involved.”
Romero told jurors: “At the close of this case, the government will do exactly what it has done for the last 70 years … and finally bring them home to their rightful owner: the people of the United States of America.”
The Secret Service, charged with protecting U.S. currency, has spent decades trying to track down the missing 1933 Double Eagles.
“The search led them to one person: Israel Switt,” she said.
“The distribution chain started here.”
Switt, a jeweler and scrap-metal dealer who died in 1990, was considered the patriarch of Philadelphia’s Jeweler’s Row, where his store remains.
The October 1929 stock market crash shook Americans’ confidence in the banking system. Fears of total financial collapse precipitated a frenzy of gold withdrawals from U.S. banks.
“There were hundreds of millions of dollars [in gold] literally bleeding from the nation’s banks,” Romero said.
To stop the losses, FDR prohibited banks from issuing gold payouts to accountholders, and demanded that paper money, silver or checks be issued instead.
However, Romero told the jury, “There were other people who didn’t respond and continued to hoard their gold.” Israel Switt was one of the hoarders, she said.
Switt was arrested in August 1934 at Philadelphia’s 30th Street Station, when the Secret Service caught him “lugging a bag of $2,000 worth of gold coins,” Romero said.
In 1944, a journalist informed the U.S. Mint about a 1933 Double Eagle set for auction in New York, Romero said.
Since no 1933 Double Eagles had been permitted to enter circulation, the coin had to be either counterfeit or stolen, the Mint reasoned.
A tenth coin, also linked to Switt, was obtained by Egypt’s King Farouk in 1944 thanks to a bureaucratic blunder involving an erroneous export license.
It reappeared in the mid-1990s, when an unwitting British coin collector was snared in a sting operation at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York.
To this day, the buyer remains anonymous, known only as “Mr. Big.”
The Secret Service concluded in the 1940s that Switt had obtained the coins through a corrupt former cashier at the Philadelphia Mint, who in 1941 was convicted of stealing coins, according to court records.
So in August 2004, when an attorney for Switt’s daughter and two grandsons – claimants Joan, Roy and David Langbord – told the U.S. Mint what they had discovered in the safe deposit box, the Secret Service was suspicious.
The Langbords allowed the Mint to take possession of the coins to confirm their authenticity.
But in what the Langbords call an unconstitutional seizure, the coins were not returned, but were stashed in a vault at Fort Knox.
So they sued the Department of the Treasury and the Bureau of the Mint in December 2006, demanding return of the 10 Double Eagles.
Attorney Berke told jurors on Thursday that they would be asked to uphold the same principle that was at issue in the forfeiture trial over the 1768 British seizure of John Hancock’s sloop Liberty: “the right of a citizen to only have their property forfeited if the government can prove in a court of law that they are entitled to it.”
“The government only learned about it because our clients told them,” Berke said.
Berke told jurors that the government would present them with a case that is based on “suspicion, theory [and] innuendo.”
“Two-hundred-thirty-five years from our independence, I submit to you that a theory is not good enough to take a citizen’s property,” Berke said.
The government, he told jurors, will try to convince them that “a gate came down and no gold could go out” when the FDR administration instituted its gold policies.
“Not only is this not so, it’s very much not so,” Berke said.
Historical records show that government workers told Americans to “feel free to exchange gold for gold” and that exceptions to the ban on gold were being made for coins that held special value to collectors, Berke said.
The other unfounded assumptions made by the government are that Mint personnel “absolutely followed every procedure” during the FDR years and that documentation from the U.S. Mint was “reliable, accurate and complete.”
Berke told jurors that “all three legs are weak” and that the government’s forfeiture case “essentially is them trying to rewrite history.”
“When faced with that, people become pretty good volunteers.”
Decades ago, when Switt sold the nine 1933 Double Eagles, he did it in a way that shows he was unaware they were ill-gotten, Berke said.
“He did it in a way that he knew would bring attention to these coins.”
Everyone with firsthand knowledge of how the coins were smuggled from the Mint is dead, Berke told jurors.
“The government, at the end of the day, has a theory of how they left.” What it doesn’t have, he said, are conclusive facts about “when the 1933 Double Eagles left the Mint, how the 1933 Double Eagles left the Mint, or by whom the 1933 Double Eagles left the Mint.”.
The trial is slated to last two to three weeks.
Premiums Decline on Older Gold
01/02/10
Premiums Decline on Older Gold
| By Harry Miller, Numismatic News January 21, 2010 |
Metals stocks and bullion-related coins seem to be signaling some continued weakness in gold and silver. Gold is hammering away at the lower end of its recent trading range with silver following. Thus far the $1,100 level has held. Platinum while off its high is well above recent levels on continued ETF demand.
Older U.S. eagles and double eagles have again lost premium in the most commonly traded grades and there is definite absence of any aggressive buyers in the market. High-grade and small-size issues are moderately active with some pluses and some minuses. Proof gold American Eagles are quiet with few buyers seeking them at current levels. Proof silver Eagles remain strong and business strike 2010 issues have come down in premium slightly in anticipation of large shipments available next week (about when you receive this issue). Demand remains strong for all silver-related bullion issues.
Type coins remain active with very optimistic reports regarding Seated issues of all denominations with special emphasis on scarcer dates and by variety. There is a continued scarcity of all better date Barber issues especially in grades F-12 to EF-40.
Aggressive buyers go for half cents, large cents and three cents with emphasis on the tiny silver issues, which in my opinion are much underpriced in VF to EF grades.
Historic Hoards Echo in Population Reports
| By Paul M. Green, Numismatic News January 07, 2010 |
There have always been some mixed emotions when it comes to hoards. It’s probably natural if you are a collector or dealer to have a concern about hoards and the possibility that one might appear and cause a sharp decline in the price of a coin you own.
The classic instance of that happening occurred to collectors owning 1903-O Morgan dollars back in 1962. They thought that they had a $1,500 coin only to see it fall to $15 seemingly overnight as hundreds of thousands of examples were released by the Treasury.
It would be hard to convince them that hoards are good.
On the other side of the matter, there is the very real fact that a hoard can make a certain coin much more available and at a much more reasonable price than was previously the case. This allows many collectors who otherwise would never have owned something to be able to acquire it.
The discovery of roughly 5,400 examples of the 1857-S Coronet Head double eagle on the sunken wreck of the S.S. Central America made not only the date available, but it also made it possible for many to have a chance to have a Mint State Coronet Head double eagle and one that was produced from the early days of the San Francisco Mint.
Without that recovery of 5,400 examples of the 1857-S from their underwater resting place, the possibilities of owning a nice Mint State double eagle from San Francisco in the 1850s would definitely be reduced and that is just one of many examples.
The discovery, promotion and original sale of hoard coins is just one part of the story. That may be the most exciting part of the story, but after the hoard coins are dispersed, how well do they really hold up in terms of price? In fact, there may be no single answer for the simple reason that there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of hoard coins.
In many cases, we simply do not have a name and story to attach to the numbers of one issue or another that are known today. That is especially true in the case of gold where hundreds and in a few cases even thousands of Mint State coins returned to the United States from primarily European bank vaults in the past half century.
There was no accounting of the numbers, but when you check the numbers seen at grading services today there is absolutely no doubt that there were substantial numbers.
Even in the cases where we know of specific hoards and likely numbers involved, it is unfair to expect that each and every hoard coin will show similar price movements. After all, they are part of a set and a set of large cents is not likely to move in price at the same rate as double eagles or silver dollars or Jefferson nickels. Consequently, we cannot really expect uniform results. That said, there is still a certain question as to just how well hoard coins have done in recent years, not when compared with each other, but perhaps when compared to other non-hoard dates of the same type.
One of the most famous hoards of all was the Randall Hoard. If you have collected large cents for more than three hours you have probably heard of the Randall Hoard. The story may not be quite in tune with the reality, but the fact remains that sometime in the late 1860s in Georgia there was a discovery of a significant number of large cents allegedly in a keg. The precise dates were debated as were an assortment of issues and the story over the years has evolved slightly but we have very solid evidence that five dates were found in some numbers in Mint State in the Randall Hoard.
The two most heavily represented dates were the 1818 and the 1820, with lesser numbers of the 1816, 1817 and 1819. We can say that with some certainty as the numbers of Mint State examples of the dates found at the grading services showed the 1818 having been seen 296 times at the Professional Coin Grading Service and 288 times at Numismatic Guaranty Corp. in Mint State, while the 1820 was seen 267 times at PCGS and 391 times at NGC. In comparison, the lowest numbers for any of the five dates were posted by the 1819, which appeared 81 times at each service. In the case of a date with a similar mintage from the period the combined total at the grading services was basically under 50.
Clearly the 1818 and 1820 are available in significantly higher numbers. Back in 1998 in MS-60 the 1818 was priced at $250 while the 1820 was $275. Today, in the same grade, the 1818 is $270 and the 1820 is at $300. It would appear that the dates are not doing well except for the fact that the large cents of the period in general have moved very little. The 1816 for example was $420 in 1998 and still is $420. Other dates have increased and usually more than the 1818 and 1820, so while perhaps increasing in price at a below average pace, it would be hard to say that the Randall Hoard dates are very different from other dates of the type.
The 1857-S double eagle found in such large numbers on the S.S. Central America, which sank in 1857 off the North Carolina coast, certainly has to be seen as an extreme test in terms of double eagles. It is not simply a case where the numbers are large, but it is also a case where the S.S. Central America is a relatively recent hoard.
The market has had very little time to really absorb what was over $100 million in sales. It is probably too early to expect the 1857-S, which was basically an available date in circulated grades but not a readily available date in Mint State, to show any signs of price increases. In fact, with very serious doubts that there are even 5,400 collectors of Mint State Coronet Head double eagles to absorb the supply, it would not be at all out of the question to expect the 1857-S to show some potentially serious price declines.
If you check the prices for the 1857-S back in 1998 in MS-60 it listed for $2,600 while an MS-63 was $10,000 with no price listed in higher grades. Today in MS-60 the 1857-S is at $4,500 while an MS-65 is at $7,250. It’s a very interesting situation and a somewhat volatile one as prices are all over the board depending on the price guide. The consensus, however, is that in MS-60 the 1857-S seems to have increased in price perhaps as publicity over the sale of the S.S. Central America coins encouraged some to want to acquire a lower cost example of a famous date.
The price decline in MS-63 may well be a case of this grade was actually hurt because there were suddenly significant numbers of higher grade examples. It is definitely an opposite trend from other Coronet Head double eagle dates. The question for the next few years is likely to be not what happens to the MS-60 or MS-63 prices, but rather how does an MS-65 or MS-66 fare at their current levels.
Another recent double eagle was one involving Saint-Gaudens double eagles. Called the Wells Fargo Hoard, the hoard involved 19,900 examples of the 1908 no motto double eagle. The number was extraordinary and so was the quality of the coins. The breakdown given to Q. David Bowers for his book A Guide Book of Double Eagle Gold Coins by Ron Gillio, who purchased the hoard, had 6,000+ in MS-66 with 1,700+ in MS-67.
These high grades were not just wishful thinking by the person buying the hoard. The coins have gone through the major grading services with stunning results. At PCGS, 793 Wells Fargo hoard coins were called MS-67 compared to 38 that were not from the hoard.
At NGC the number of Wells Fargo MS-67 coins was 941 compared to 94 not from the hoard. There were similar numbers in other high grades. The impact of so many top quality examples of a single date almost had to have an impact.
The MS-65 listing of the no motto 1908 back in 1998 was $1,350 and today in MS-65 the price is $2,350. This is the cheapest of the “No Motto” type.
If MS-65 were the top grade available, then there would be considerable pressure on buyers to find and buy an MS-65. The Wells Fargo Hoard, however, has made MS-65 an average grade for this one date. Combined NGC and PCGS have graded over 6,400 Wells Fargo coins as MS-66 and 1,700 more as MS-67. Under the circumstances, buyers will seek those upper grades and not the MS-65 so there are more than just numbers potentially working against the MS-65 price of the “No Motto” 1908.
A dramatically different situation involving gold coins would be the gold dollars of 1879, 1880 and 1881. The three were low mintage, with the 1879 having a mintage of 3,030 while the 1880 was just 1,636 and the 1881 was 7,707. The three should have all been tough dates, but back at the time they were released someone saved examples. In fact. they saved hundreds of each.
We can see evidence in hundreds of each in Mint State reported by both PCGS and NGC. The hoards of the three were not all that well known, although it is a case where relatively few study and collect gold dollars. While we do not know the details of the hoard, we know that hundreds of each of the three dates are known and the MS-60 price of the three back in 1998 saw the 1879 at $700 while the 1880 and 1881 were each at $400. Today in MS-60 the 1879 is $525, the 1880 is $425 and the 1881 is $410.
There is simply no good way to make sense of that change. Ironically, the 1879 which declined the most in price is the least often seen of the three in highest grades, while the 1881 which actually increased in price in the highest Mint State grades has been graded more often than either of the other dates. There is no good way of explaining the changes, but every so often strange things happen in the market and this would have to qualify as one of those times.
If there is such a thing as a blue chip hoard coin, it is ironically a pattern as the 1856 Flying Eagle cent could not have been a coin even though it circulated simply because the law authorizing the Flying Eagle cent was passed in 1857. Over the years, few coins have been hoarded like the 1856, which seemed to always inspire speculation or at minimum a hoarding instinct.
George Rice of Detroit probably won the prize for the largest hoard of the 1856 with his accumulation numbered 756 pieces while close behind was John Andrew Beck of Pittsburgh, whose total included some from the Rice collection, reached 531.
In the case of the 1856 the numbers are small, but the percentage of the total mintage is large. Produced both in proof and also with a small number of business strikes there is no certainty regarding the 1856 mintage although perhaps 1,500 to 2,500 pieces would be a good range. Back in 1998 the 1856 was at $4,000 in G-4 and today that price is $6,250. In MS-65, the 1998 price was $21,000 and today that price is $65,000. Clearly as hoard coins go, the 1856 Flying Eagle cent continues to defy the other patterns by surging strongly to higher prices and in all grades.
There was a great deal of hoarding during the Civil War and some of that even reached down to copper-nickel cents. As a result, small groups of the copper-nickel cent dates have been reported over the years. The largest was discussed by Q. David Bowers in his book American Coin Treasures and Hoards” The group of probably 1,000 Mint State specimens of the 1862 was offered in a Thomas Elder auction in 1918. The group was significant based on the fact that PCGS has seen about 675 Mint State examples of the 1862 while NGC is at roughly 850. The 1998 prices for the 1862 in Mint State were $80 for an MS-60 and $575 for an MS-65. Today those listings are the same for an MS-60 but $1,050 for an MS-65. For a hoard coin that is not heavily publicized, that’s a strong MS-65 increase, although in reality it reflects a general increase in copper-nickel Indian cents prices in MS-65 as all dates have done basically the same thing in terms of price.
One of the more interesting dates that was heavily hoarded was the 1883 without “CENTS” Liberty Head nickel. No particular hoard can be discussed although groups of 100 or more were known. The 1883 without “CENTS” was simply hoarded by many as a new design. It was an unusual time for hoarding, but people then also hoarded the last couple years of the Shield nickel series. We see the proof in the fact that there are thousands of Mint State 1883 without “CENTS” nickels reported at the grading services and that produced 1998 prices of $32 in MS-60 and $300 in MS-65. Today those prices are $25 in MS-60 and $260 in MS-65, so clearly the extremely large numbers reported by the grading services are keeping the price down.
In his book, Bowers reports on the mysterious appearance on the market of hundreds of Mint State 1877-CC quarters in Mint State. It was an odd situation as traditionally there was very little saving of new coins at Carson City and even if there had been, the 1877-CC quarter with a mintage of nearly 4.2 million would have been an odd choice. That said, the observation of Bowers is supported by grading service totals, which show hundreds of examples of the 1877-CC in Mint State.
Since 1998, the 1877-CC which was at $375 in MS-60 has dropped to $325. Interestingly enough, that is still a premium over the most available Mint State Seated Liberty quarter dates of the type. Realistically the 1877-CC is one of those most available dates, but it happens to have a “CC” mintmark, which may be the only thing stopping it from further declines.
There is no doubt there have been a few Lincoln cents that were hoarded. It was reported that John Zug had some 25,000 examples of the 1909-S VDB, although that hoard was allegedly broken up before 1920. There were at least 10 or more rolls that hit the market in the 1950s, but the demand for the 1909-S VDB is so great that such numbers were drops in the bucket when it came to meeting demand.
Since 1998 the 1909-S VDB has gone from $720 in MS-60 and $1,800 in MS-65 to a current $1,825 in MS-60 and $6,850 in MS-65, proving that with enough demand no hoard can keep prices from rising. The situation with the Philadelphia 1909 VDB is slightly different. Its total numbers hoarded were much, much larger. There is solid demand for the 1909 VDB, also. Its 1998 prices of $9 in MS-60 and $39 in MS-65, respectively, have risen to $25 in MS-60 and $195 in MS-65.
A final Lincoln cent worth noting is the 1931-S. With a mintage below 1 million we know the 1931-S was hoarded. We can dispute the numbers hoarded with a Walter Breen claim that the Maurice Scharlack hoard had 200,000 pieces, which would have been about 25 percent of the entire mintage, but there is no doubt the 1931-S was heavily hoarded in Mint State and upper circulated grades. Since 1998 in Mint State the 1931-S has moved from $53 in MS-60 and $215 in MS-65 to a current $163 in MS-60 and $685 in MS-65.
Probably the most famous hoard coin of all time would be the 1950-D Jefferson nickel. We frankly do not know what percentage of its 2,630,030 mintage was hoarded initially, but somewhere on the order of 50 percent or more would be in the ballpark. A.J. Mitula of Houston, Texas, reportedly had 1 million pieces while another 320,000 were reported in Wisconsin and there were others with larger numbers involved.
The 1950-D soared in price during the 1950s and 1960s probably in part because all were tied up in hoards. Then it simply went into a coma, not moving for decades. In 1998 the 1950-D was $6.50 in MS-60 and $9.50 in MS-65. Today it sits at $18 in MS-60 and $30 in MS-65.
It is certainly a mixed bag when it comes to prices of hoard coins. Greater numbers should hold prices down, but a good story or heavy demand for the whole series can still lift prices higher.
