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By R.W. Julian, Numismatic News
December 06, 2011

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IT is sometimes thought that a new coinage design adopted in the 19th century was merely a matter of the engraver trying out a few drawings on a Mint official. This was no doubt sometimes the case prior to the Civil War but after that time there was an increasing number of hoops that had to be jumped through before the design was actually changed.

The well-known Seated Liberty motif had been adopted in the 1830s and was first seen on the quarter dollar in 1838. Familiarity, however, often breeds contempt and by the 1870s Mint officials were becoming increasingly interested in seeing a change of designs on the minor silver coins.

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In 1876 Mint Director Henry R. Linderman, known for his seemingly inexhaustible energy, persuaded a talented young British engraver to come to America. George Morgan arrived in the fall of 1876 and soon began to prepare suitable designs for the silver coins. (His mandate was later enlarged to include the gold as well.)

The designs found ready acceptance by Linderman and there is little doubt that one of more of the Morgan designs would have been used on the minor silver had not one of odder economic events occurred in late 1877. During the Civil War much of our silver coinage had been exported to Canada and Latin America and now, unexpectedly, came back in massive quantities.

So much silver returned in 1877-1878 that the Treasury ordered the mints to stop striking silver coins, except for the limited amounts needed as presents. There was a tradition of presenting new coins at Christmas in some areas of the country and the annual coinage of a few thousand pieces of each denomination met this special need.

With virtually no minor silver being struck there was little or no point in changing the designs. Linderman’s grand plan had come crashing to earth in the face of economic reality. For quarters and half dollars there would be little coinage until 1891 at Philadelphia although a significant number of quarters was struck at San Francisco in 1888.

By an odd quirk, however, this early work by George Morgan was not wasted. When it became clear in the latter part of 1877 that the coinage of silver dollars would soon resume, and the Trade dollar ended, Morgan used one of his patterns to advantage when he won the early 1878 contest to design the new dollar.

Although only dimes were then being struck in any quantity for minor silver, in April 1887 Mint Director James P. Kimball thought the time was right for a change of design. He instituted a national contest, which invited American artists to submit designs for the U.S. subsidiary silver coinage. It would appear that Kimball had not consulted the officers of the Philadelphia Mint prior to issuing his circular because the Mint engraving staff, to a man, refused to enter the contest.

It was not an auspicious start and soon got worse. In addition to not consulting the engraving staff, he had not even bothered to read the law with the necessary care. These blunders soon killed the Kimball proposals.

In his annual report for the fiscal year 1887 Kimball addressed a lengthy report to Treasury Secretary Charles S. Fairchild concerning the devices and designs on the current coinage. This time Kimball did his homework properly.

According to Kimball, the Mint director, with the approval of the Treasury secretary, did have the authority to make alterations in coinage designs. Congress could, of course, override this power. (The same general method of selection is in effect today except that, by a law passed in 1890, the designs cannot be changed oftener than 25 years unless directed by the Congress.)

In his report to the Treasury, Kimball went on to state that “my official attention has been called by numerous citizens to the inartistic quality of the designs upon several of our current coins.” He requested that steps be taken to correct the situation. Despite Kimball’s arguments, Fairchild turned a deaf ear. Kimball went out of office in 1889, having accomplished nothing toward the redesign of the minor silver coins.

The next step came from within the Mint itself. In September 1890 chief engraver Charles Barber wrote Mint Director Edward O. Leech suggesting that new designs be sought for U.S. silver coins and perhaps the gold as well. Barber believed that the decades-old artwork should give way to new ideas.

Leech replied that nothing could be done until the spring of 1891. This delay, Leech explained, was due to certain reports that needed to be compiled, including one on the mining industry. The director kept his word by issuing a circular on April 4, 1891, asking interested artists to submit designs for the minor silver coins. The Mint staff, however, as under Kimball, refused to participate because Leech had stipulated a deadline of June 1.

Despite the close deadline several artists did send in drawings. These were judged by a committee headed by Augustus Saint-Gaudens but which included chief engraver Charles Barber and noted medalist Henry Mitchell. The committee met on June 3 and rejected all entries.

The committee suggested that “the services of one or more artists distinguished for work in designing for relief be engaged at a suitable compensation to prepare for the consideration of the Department new designs for the coins of the United States.” Leech took this suggestion as a mandate but his response was not quite what the committee had intended.

Only a few days after the abortive contest had ended, Leech notified Philadelphia Mint Superintendent Oliver C. Bosbyshell that the engraving staff (Charles Barber, George Morgan, and William H. Key) was to prepare suitable designs for the minor silver coinage.

Leech not only gave instructions for preliminary sketches to be prepared by the engravers, but also spelled out precisely what he wanted in the way of designs. In particular, he ordered a head of Liberty to be based on the current French version that appeared on several bronze and silver coins of the Third Republic.

The director ordered that the reverse of the quarter and half dollar bear the Great Seal of the United States, an eagle with the olive branch and arrows in its talons. He felt that the reverse of the then current dime was admirable and ought to be retained.

Bosbyshell did not quite agree with the rules laid down by Leech and answered by suggesting a personal conference among all concerned. In particular Bosbyshell thought that selected outside artists, such as Augustus Saint-Gaudens, should be invited to participate alongside the Mint engravers.

In late June 1891 Leech visited the Mint but insisted on his original plans, which did not include outside artists. The work was to be done in-house and the choice of artist would depend on the sketches submitted to him. In late July the director again visited the Mint and chose Charles Barber to carry out the work.

Leech chose to go public with his choice of artist and news of the ongoing work was published in the first week of August. Although Barber was supposed to use the French head of Liberty, he chose instead to strike off in a different direction. His first obverse had a standing figure while the reverse was based on the famous Una and the Lion gold pattern from the London mint in 1839.

For a time little or nothing seems to have been done but by the middle of August Barber was again at work on the new designs. This time it is certain that the engraver had followed orders more closely and the new head of Liberty had been prepared, following the French model with reasonable care.

About this time Barber had also completed the reverse design to appear on the quarter and half dollar. When Leech first saw the proposed reverse he had some rather stringent criticism, noting that the figure of the eagle did not correspond with the current United States Great Seal die. He also did not approve of the scroll, which contained the motto E PLURIBUS UNUM, passing over the neck of the eagle. There were other complaints, mostly concerned with the olive branch and berries.

At this point Barber made a clear mistake by responding to Leech in the following words: “I am quite ready and willing to make any change in design, provided the suggestion in my mind is a good one, but I must ask that criticism come to an end before I am too far advanced with the die.…” The engraver then defended his version of the Great Seal by stating that he had used the original version of 1782, not the one then employed by the State Department.

In a rare lapse of judgment Bosbyshell unwisely seconded Barber’s answer. The prompt response from director to the two letters was direct and to the point:

“I beg to say that the only limit which will be placed on such criticism will be the final adoption of the design. My purpose in the suggestions and criticisms which I have offered is to get as perfect a work as possible, and if any number of dies have been prepared or are in process of preparation, any change, however slight, that would in my judgment improve the design, I should have it made.

“I do not like this spirit which resents criticism and suggestions in regard to the work of the mints. All criticism and suggestions which are actuated by a kindly spirit and which may have the tendency to beautify our coins, instead of being resented, or any time limit placed upon them, should be most cheerfully received and due consideration given to their merits.”

Barber did reply to the letter but only to justify some minor points about the design. In particular he noted that the heraldic eagle found on the reverse of the early silver dollars had the scroll crossing the eagle’s neck and he was therefore merely following precedent. He made no more suggestions about the criticism coming to an end, however.

Leech insisted on his ideas about the placement of the ribbon (to go behind the eagle’s neck) and in due course Barber executed a new eagle device in which the ribbon appeared as wished by Leech. The director was so pleased with this new appearance that the ribbon stayed behind the neck.

Several pattern coins, all half dollars, were prepared by Barber in the latter part of October 1891 and sent to the director’s office. The obverse head of Liberty was quickly approved by Leech and the Treasury but the reverse design was another matter entirely.

Leech and Treasury Secretary Charles Foster could not make up their minds about the various forms of the reverse that Barber had submitted so they did something rather novel. They asked President Benjamin Harrison and his cabinet to examine the patterns and make the final decision on the reverse design to appear on the quarter and half dollar. On Nov. 5 that august body did in fact make the final choice.

Although the president and cabinet had spoken there were also a few suggestions made by the cabinet. In particular Barber was asked to strengthen the lettering, especially the words LIBERTY and E PLURIBUS UNUM so that they could be read more easily and wear off less quickly.

Once the minor changes had been made, the engraving department began preparing the necessary dies for Philadelphia and the branch mints except for Carson City, which had not struck minor silver coins for some years and was due to be closed in 1893.

On Dec. 11, Bosbyshell requested Leech to delay the introduction of the Barber design until the dies had been thoroughly tested at Philadelphia. According to the superintendent this was necessary because only a practical test would tell if the dies had been properly prepared and that all was in order. On Dec. 14 this request was refused by Leech, who ordered the dies prepared forthwith.

The Barber coinage began at Philadelphia promptly at 9 a.m. on Jan. 2, 1892. Ac­cording to the superintendent the dies for all three denominations were in use that entire day and there had been no disruptions. Bosbyshell went on to say that it was normal to have problems on the first day of any new coinage but these had not appeared.

The sense of well being did not last all that long. Complaints were received in the first weeks after coinage commenced. It seemed that the new quarter dollars would not stack evenly because the head extended above the protecting border rim.

Charles Barber carefully examined the quarter dollar dies and decided—for once—that the criticism was valid and ought to be corrected as soon as possible. A change in the hub for the obverse was undertaken.

Barber increased the width of the border, which protects the surface of a coin, and slightly decreased the radius circle which contained the words IN GOD WE TRUST. The stars were also moved closer to the center of the coin. It took several weeks for these changes to be accomplished. In due course the revised dies were furnished to the branch mints as well.

The reverse quarter dollar hub also was altered at the same time, although this change is only lightly discussed in the surviving mint records. These new reverse dies may be easily distinguished by noting that, on the first type, the eagle’s wing covers only about half of the letter E in UNITED while on the second variety most of the E is covered.)

Even though new quarter dollar hubs had been prepared in 1892, still there were continuing problems that plagued this denomination. In 1900 a third set of hubs was prepared in an effort to end the difficulties once and for all. Oddly enough the San Francisco coiner at first refused to use the dies of 1900, claiming that the old ones were better. He was ordered to do as he was told.

As with other coins in the Barber series, there are a fair number of rarities for the quarter dollar. The 1896-S is the first of these, followed by the 1901-S and 1913-S. The 1901-S is the most difficult to obtain and even in the lowest of identifiable grades, brings several thousand dollars at public auction.

As was true in the 1870s and 1880s, the overly familiar Barber designs led the government to seek out new artwork. For the quarter dollar this meant the new Standing Liberty coins that were first struck in late 1916. Once that happened only the collector was left to appreciate the beauty of the Barber coins.

Coin Rarities & Related Topics: Assembling Sets of Silver Coins, part 1, Dimes and Half Dollars

By Greg Reynolds on October 26, 2011 1:10 AM

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News and Analysis of scarce coins,  markets, and the collecting community #78

A Weekly Column by Greg Reynolds

The topic here is ideas for beginning and intermediate level collectors who wish to complete or nearly complete sets of U.S. silver dimes and half dollars. Advice is provided, especially for collectors who are not affluent.

I will address quarters in another column. I am also an advocate of the collecting of copper, nickel, or gold coins. There are, though, only so many topics that may be effectively addressed in one discussion. In the future, I will write about assembling sets of all series of U.S. coins. Dimes and halves dated prior to 1965 are predominantly silver and have always been very popular with collectors of U.S. coins

One of the primary factors that distinguishes coin collecting from many other collecting pursuits is that there are clearly definable sets that can be completed, or almost completed. If a set of Three Cent Nickels is completed, for example, then such a completion is a fact, not an opinion. Can a particular collection of paintings, sculptures, old photographs, movie memorabilia, or baseball bats ever be ‘complete’ or nearly so?

Unlike in the cultures of other collecting pursuits, the facts and the rules that pertain to completing sets of U.S. coins are, for the most part, widely accepted and have clear logical structures. There is less opinion involved in the collecting of coins than there is in other kinds of collecting activities, though there will always be some subjective factors.

Those who do not understand the notion of completing a set of a series of U.S. coins may wish to first read an earlier column on Basics for Beginners. (As always, clickable links are in blue.) For general collecting advice, not focused upon completing sets, please read my column on advice for beginning and intermediate collectors of U.S. coins. Those collecting or considering collecting Two Cent Pieces, Three Cent Nickels or Dimes may click to read my pieces on collecting these specific denominations.

Although I often suggest that collectors assemble type sets, I am excluding type sets from the current discussion. Yes, it makes sense for a beginner to obtain one of each design type in order to appreciate and learn about all design types of U.S. coins. The quest of completing a type set, however, is much different from the pursuit of a specific series. Type coins of series starting in 1840 or later are readily always available for a price and these are besides the focus here.

Collecting certain specific series ‘by date’ (including Mint locations) requires time, involve challenges, and is often fun, even for collectors who do not have a lot of money. The purpose here is to discuss sets that thousands of coin collectors can afford to complete or almost complete.

I. Mercury Dimes

Collectors on a tight budget, especially beginners, may wish to consider Mercs. Mercury or ‘Winged Liberty’ Dimes were minted from 1916 to 1945 and are commonly called ‘Mercs.’ Including two overdates, 1942/41 and 1942/41-D, there are eighty dates in the set. In coin collecting, the term ‘date’ refers to more than just a year. It also includes a reference, often implicit, to the mint that struck the respective coin. In my terms, a 1916 Philadelphia Mint Barber Dime, a 1916 Philadelphia Mint Mercury Dime, and a 1916 Denver Mint Mercury Dime constitute three different dates.

Seventy-three of the eighty dates in the Merc series may be purchased for less than $5 each in Good-04 grade or higher. Indeed, several of these may be obtained in Extremely Fine-40 grade for less than $5!

Key dates cost more. A 1921 Philadelphia Mint Merc would cost around $50 in Good-04 grade and around $800 in AU-50 grade. A 1921 Denver Mint Merc is priced about thirty percent more than a 1921 Philadelphia Mint Merc.

The 1926 San Francisco Mint Merc is another key date. It may cost around $10 in Good and more than $400 in AU grade. Other than the 1916-D, the 1942/41 overdates are the most expensive. A collector should figure that each of these two overdates will cost several hundred dollars.

A set of Mercs without a 1916-D is almost complete and is significant. For those who can afford a 1916-D, one may cost around $500 in AG-03 and more than $10,000 in AU-55 grade. In Sept. 2010, the Goldbergs auctioned a PCGS graded AG-03 1916-D for $748, a coin which may be especially nice for its ’03′ grade.

It is imperative that collectors consider only 1916-D dimes that have been certified by the PCGS or the NGC. There are many fake 1916-D dimes being offered at coin shows and by ‘mail-order’ dealers.

If the 1916-D and the two overdates are ignored, an almost complete set, consisting of seventy-seven coins, would cost less than $500 in Good to Very Good grades, or less than $1500 in Very Fine grades! Such a quest could be pursued over a period of years and thus could fit into the budgets of most coin collectors. Also, I suggest acquiring coins that have naturally toned rather than those that have been artificially brightened. Circulated silver coins tend not to be bright. Coins properly stored in albums or envelopes often tone russet, brown, tan, blue and other colors.

II. Realistic Sets

What is the difference between almost completing a set and totally completing it? There is not always a clear answer. Generally, I am referring to collectible coins.

A set of Liberty Seated Dimes may be effectively complete without the unique 1873-CC ‘No Arrows’ dime. The collector who acquired the unique 1873-CC ‘No Arrows’ Dime in 2004, so I have been told, collects Carson City (Nevada) Mint coins of all denominations, not Liberty Seated Dimes ‘by date.’ So, there may currently be zero complete sets of Liberty Seated Dimes. Realistically, a set of Liberty Seated Dimes of all dates (including Mint locations) without this one unique coin would be regarded as ‘complete’ by most experts, even though, in actuality, it would be ‘almost complete.’

There exists likewise only one 1870-S Liberty Seated Half Dime. Nonetheless, a set of all Liberty Seated Half Dimes, except the 1870-S, would be almost complete, really effectively complete. Within the traditions of coin collecting in the U.S., a set that is almost complete is often considered to be very important and may be a great accomplishment. Traditionally, coin collectors are not fanatical about completeness.

When I was not an adult, I was an extremely enthusiastic collector of Barber coins. These were first minted in 1892. Barber Dimes and Barber Quarters were minted until 1916, while Barber Half Dollars were last struck in 1915. Barber coins of all three denominations were struck at four different U.S. Mints, at Philadelphia, Denver, New Orleans and San Francisco. While not rare in absolute terms, business strike Barber coins are much scarcer than Morgan Silver Dollars and are less expensive.

According to the PCGS price guide, a set of PCGS certified Morgan Dollars ‘by date’ (including Mint locations) in EF-40 grade would cost more than $25,000, more than $70,000 in AU-55 grade and around a half a million in “MS-63” grade. Except for a few key dates, it is unusual to collect Morgan Dollars in grades below Extremely Fine-40. These are not excellent values, mostly because Morgan Dollars are very common. There exist tens of thousands of almost every business strike in the series. Of some dates, there survive hundreds of thousands.

The leading key date in the series is the 1893-S, and there are thousands of these. Indeed, David Hall asserts that “probably” around ten thousand 1893-S Morgan Dollars exist. Yet, an 1893-S Morgan costs more than $1500 in Good condition and more than $7500 in Extremely Fine-40 grade. In contrast to other 19th century silver coins, Morgans seem overvalued, from a logical perspective. Nevertheless, they are very popular and are frequently promoted by large marketing firms.

Barber coins are often collected in Good to Very Good grades, as these are usually available. Unlike Morgans, they were minted primarily for circulation and did, in fact, widely circulate. Most wore down in commerce. Barber coins are not expensive in Fine to Very Fine grades.

John Albanese recommends Barber coins in “Extremely Fine to AU grades,” which tend to cost from “$50 to $2000 per coin.” Albanese founded the NGC in 1987 and he started the CAC in 2007.

III. Barber Dimes

A complete set of business strike Barber Dimes may cost around $1250 in Good-04 condition, in Fine-12 grade perhaps $5000, maybe $7500 in VF-20, and probably more than $11,000 for nice, naturally toned Barber Dimes in EF-40 grade. A collector “could complete a set of EF to AU Barber Dimes for $20 to $1750 per coin,” Albanese emphasizes, “with most coins less than $150.”

While completing a set of Morgans might require just a few hours at a major convention, as these are so common, completing a set of Barber Dimes would take time. Even at a leading coin convention, some of the better-dates would not be available in any grade!

When I was I kid, I found that some better dates were extremely difficult to find in the Good to Very Fine range. So, I would settle for Fair-02 or AG-03 grade pieces, including a 1900-O and a 1903-S. At many small coin shows, particular better-date Barber Dimes were difficult or nearly impossible to find. Some of the coins offered had terrible problems or were Philadelphia Mint coins with added mintmarks. Collecting Barber Dimes was fun, challenging and exciting.

By the way, I am not implying that collecting Barber Dimes is a task for kids. Many adults, of all ages, enjoy collecting Barber Dimes. It is an activity that kids, parents, uncles, aunts, cousins, and grandparents can all undertake.

“Barber sets are a bit tougher to acquire than early 20th Century sets, like Buffalo Nickels and Walkers,” John Brush finds, “but there seem to be a lot of Barber Dimes available on the market at reasonable prices right now.” John Brush is the vice president of David Lawrence Rare Coins. “Even CAC [approved] Barber Dimes are available in modest quantities,” Brush adds.

Brush is referring to high quality Barber Dimes. There are Barber Dime issues, from four different mints, dated before 1910 that are very low priced, just a few dollars each. It takes a very small amount of money to start a set of Barber Dimes. As I am nearly convinced that all 1894-S Barber Dimes were struck as Proofs, a set of business strike Barber Dimes is not too difficult to truly complete. It is just difficult enough for the quest to be time-consuming and challenging.

IV. Half Dollars

For beginning or intermediate level collectors who are seeking to complete sets of silver coins, I would recommend Barber Halves over Barber Quarters. As I mention below, a collector who cannot afford Barber Halves may choose Franklin Halves.

A truly complete set of Barber Halves, including all dates (with all corresponding mint locations), would cost around $2500 in Good-04 grade, and around $8000 in Fine-12 grade. A collector on a tight budget may wish to buy the least scarce dates in Very Fine or higher grade and the key dates in Almost Good (AG) to Very Good grades.

A 1904-S, a key date, costs many thousands of dollars in high grades. Indeed, the Duckor 1904-S realized more than $100,000 at auction in August 2010. A 1904-S in Good-04 grade, however, may be priced around $45. One in Fair-02 or AG-03 grade could be found for $25.

Unfortunately for the non-affluent buyer, an 1892-O and an 1892-S might each cost more than $200. The assembling of a set of Barber Halves, though, typically occurs over a period of years. Collectors could acquire the least scarce dates in a leisurely manner, and save for the better dates.

When a collector seeks classic U.S. coins that cost more than $250 each, he or she should consider only coins certified by the PCGS or the NGC. Even when the grading services make mistakes, the holders have substantial value. Buying PCGS or NGC certified coins involves less risk than the purchase of non-certified coins.

Several 19th century Barber Halves, from three different mints, may be obtained for less than $35 each. Among 20th century Barber Halves, coins from four different mints may be found in Good grades for less than $25 each.

In Extremely Fine-40 grade, most dates in the series cost between $150 and $425. I emphasize that a truly complete set is a very realistic objective. Other than an 1892 ‘Micro O’ variety, which is not needed for a set, no Barber Half should cost more than $250 in Good-04 grade.

John Albanese recommends “a set of Barber Halves in Extremely Fine-40 to AU-55” grades. Such a set, “without the 1897-O and the 1904-S, could be assembled for $175 to $900 per coin. A nice ’97-O and a nice ’04-S cost more than this in Extremely Fine or better grades, but the ’97-O should cost less than $2000,” John adds.

Albanese also suggests Walkers for beginning collectors. Walking Liberty Half Dollars (Walkers) were minted from 1916 to 1947. “Except a half dozen better dates, circulated Walkers can be bought for melt value or a little above melt value at small coin shows or coin stores,” John explains. The term ‘melt value’ refers to the value of the metal in the coin if (hypothetically) the coin was melted. “You do not have much to lose by buying classic silver coins for around the price of silver,” Albanese declares.

The 1916, 1916-D and 1916-S Walkers could each be acquired for less than $100 each. The 1921 and the 1921-D are the only two Walkers that cost more than $100 each in Good grades.

Kris Oyster finds that beginning and intermediate level collectors “enjoy BU [Brilliant Uncirculated = bright 'Mint State'] Walkers and Franklin Half Dollars.” Oyster points out that a “short set of BU Walkers, 1941-47, is not expensive.” Moreover, “a set of Franklins is fun and affordable. I really love the Franklin Half series,” Kris declares. Franklin Half Dollars were minted from 1948 to 1963. Oyster is the managing director of numismatics for DGSE in Dallas, which owns Superior Galleries in California and also stores throughout the South.

Beginning collectors can complete a set of high grade Franklin Half Dollars, in AU-50 to MS-63 grades, by simply going to a small coin store,” John Albanese explains. “If the shop owner is friendly, he will let you pick through his junk silver bags [and buy coins] at a small percentage over melt. For not much more, collectors can buy BU raw Franklins,” Albanese adds. The term raw refers to coins that are not certified. John “would put them in a Dansco album or coin envelopes for moderate matched toning.”

In my view, it is important to point out that Albanese and Oyster are referring to Franklin Halves that cost little more than silver bullion value. While Franklins may be good choices for beginners and for collectors on tight budgets, these are not rare coins. Unless a collector is wealthy and is knowledgeable about coins, he or she should not spend more than $100 on a business strike Franklin Half.

V. Liberty Seated Dimes

If the Carson City issues of 1871 to 1874 are excluded, assembling a set of business strike Liberty Seated Dimes is somewhat easy and is recommended. This series spans more than five decades, from 1837 to 1891.

Most of the dates in Good-04 condition cost from $9 to $25 each. Even in EF-40 to AU-50 grades, a large number of the dates (including mintmarked coins) in the series cost less than $200 each, many less than $75 each.

Even the 1860-O dime, a classic rarity, costs around $1000 in Fine grades. In Sept. 2009, Stack’s auctioned an 1860-O that is PCGS graded “Fine-12” for $1092.50.

The Philadelphia Mint dime issue of 1844 is famous and is truly scarce, perhaps almost rare. It is certainly rare in grades of Fine-12 and above. In September, Heritage auctioned an NGC graded “VF-20” 1844 for $173. In May 2007, the Goldbergs auctioned a PCGS graded ‘Fine-15” 1844 for $483.

The 1858 San Francisco dime issue is famous and is rare! In Good-04 grade, the PCGS price guide values an 1858-S at $125 and the Numismedia.com guide value is $144. These seem like reasonable prices for a famous rarity. Prices for higher grade 1858-S dimes are still sensible, from a logical perspective.

There are too many Liberty Seated Dimes, of different dates, that cost less than $100 each to list here. A collector who can afford to spend an average of $500 per dime could acquire a very large percentage of the series in Very Fine to Extremely Fine grades.

When I collected coins as a kid, Liberty Seated Dimes and Barber Dimes that graded from Fair-02 to Good-04 often delighted me. There really is not a need to spend a lot of money to enjoy collecting coins.

If a budget is spread over a five to ten year period, the cost of building an almost complete set of Liberty Seated Dimes will turn out to be less than most collectors realize and will often be manageable on an annual basis for a non-rich collector. A set of Liberty Seated Dimes is cool, and includes several recognized rarities and six design types or subtypes!

Coin Rarities & Related Topics: Dimes and Quarters in the ANA Auction in Pittsburgh

By Greg Reynolds on October 19, 2011 11:05 AM

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News and Analysis on scarce coins,  markets, and the coin collecting community #77

A Weekly Column by Greg Reynolds

The topic this week is several important dimes and quarters that were auctioned by Heritage at the first Fall ANA Convention, on the evening of Oct. 13th, in Pittsburgh. In recent columns, I discussed some gold coins in this same auction event, an 1856-O Double Eagle ($20 coin), the Eliasberg 1796/5 Half Eagle ($5 coin), and the Norweb 1854-S Quarter Eagle.  This auction also included copper and nickel coins, plus other numismatic items. The total of the prices realized was more than fifteen million.

The gold coins in this auction were relatively more important and famous. These tended to bring stronger prices than the silver coins. Plus, a collector consignment of a set of Liberty Head Quarter Eagles ($2½ gold coins) drew a lot of attention.

There is just not time or space to cover all the significant items in a major coin auction, nor is it practical to discuss herein all the significant dimes and quarters. So, each of my selections is based upon one or more of the following factors: (1) coins that I have personally examined, (2) coins that are rare or are condition rarities, (3) coins that are particularly appealing because of their high degree of originality, (4) coins that have important pedigrees, (5) coins that are traditionally popular with collectors, and/or (6) coins that realized strong prices in this auction event.

I. Expensive or Inexpensive?

Although this is not one of them, many of my columns and articles are directed towards beginners and/or people who cannot afford to spend a lot of money on coins. There is no need to spend a lot of money to collect coins that are considered significant in the traditions of coin collecting in the U.S.

About a year ago, with contributions from a few carefully thinking dealers, I presented advice for beginning and intermediate collectors of U.S. coins. In February, with input from John Albanese and Kris Oyster, I devoted a column to Basics for Beginners. Furthermore, during the spring, I wrote introductory pieces, which are appropriate for beginners and are intended to be useful to non-rich collectors. These include introductions to collecting Two Cent Pieces, Three Cent Nickels and Dimes. It takes just a small amount of money to get started in such quests.

When covering major coin auctions, it makes sense to discuss expensive coins. It is true that most collectors cannot afford the individual coins that tend to be very newsworthy or lend themselves to extended discussions for other reasons. This generally does not, and should not, discourage collectors from reading about expensive coins.

To understand 19th century art, there is a need to read about paintings that only a few people can afford. To understand scarce and rare U.S. coins in general, there is a need to learn about coins that are very expensive.

II. 1796 Dimes

There were three 1796 Draped Bust Dimes in this auction. These are important for several reasons, not the least of which is that U.S. Dimes in general were first minted in 1796.

One of the three is NGC graded “MS-62” and has a sticker of approval from the CAC. It was part of the “Milly Chaykin Collection.” In Jan. 2005, this same dime was auctioned by Heritage as part of the Richard Chouinard Collection. He was one of the few collectors who actually acquired a very large number of scarce or rare coins by attending auctions in person. During the 1990s, Chouinard was present at innumerable coin auctions. He collected coins from the 1940s to around 2003 or 2004.

In Jan. 2005, this NGC graded “MS-62” 1796 dime sold for $16,100. It was then, or soon afterwards, acquired by the late Jack Lee, a famous collector and part-time dealer from Mississippi. According to Heritage, Lee consigned this dime to a November 2005 auction, in which it sold for $14,950.

On Oct. 13, 2011, it brought $21,850, not a very strong price. Current market levels for such a coin are markedly higher than they were in 2005.

This dime seems to have a lot of friction for a “MS-62” grade coin. A certified “MS-62” 1796 dime that is more clearly uncirculated might have brought much more in this auction.

Yes, I know that 1796 dimes tend to be characterized by weakly struck design details. The most famous of the three 1796 dimes in this auction has a particularly weakly struck eagle on the reverse (back of the coin). The NGC graded “MS-64” 1796 in this auction was previously in the Ed Price Collection, which featured incredibly comprehensive sets of Draped Bust Dimes and Bust Right Quarter Eagles.

Ed Price had representatives of all die pairings of 1796 dimes, and this is one of six varieties of 1796 dimes. Heritage auctioned the Ed Price collection on July 31, 2008, just as markets for rare coins in general peaked. This dime then brought $34,500.

Earlier, Heritage auctioned this same 1796 dime in Nov. 2004 in West Palm Beach for $23,000. It was then PCGS graded MS-63. In October 2011, it sold for $54,625, a very strong price.

This Ed Price 1796 dime has naturally toned nicely, mostly brownish-russet, with a lot of blue. There are exceptionally few contact marks on this coin. The weakly struck reverse is unsurprising. Overall, it is a very attractive coin.

A third 1796 dime in this sale is certified by a service other than the PCGS or the NGC, which is unusual. Expensive pre-1934 U.S. coins in major coin auctions are typically PCGS or NGC graded, unless they are judged by the PCGS or the NGC to be ungradable. In any event, I was not impressed by this coin. Jim McGuigan suggests that it has been artificially toned. This circulated 1796 sold for $7475, a strong price and not a good deal.

III. 1832 Capped Bust Dimes

There were two certified “MS-65” 1832 Capped Bust Dimes in this auction. The first is NGC certified and brought $4614.95, not a high price. The second is PCGS certified and CAC approved. I did not see either of them.

Mark Feld regards this second 1832 as “a nice accurately graded coin, though not especially attractive or lustrous.” Feld was a full-time grader for the NGC for more than seven years, in the 1990s. This second 1832 dime went for $8625, a very strong price

IV. “MS-69” 1874 Dime

Only a very small number of business strike Liberty Seated Dimes have been certified as grading “MS-69.” The Eliasberg 1845-O dime is PCGS graded “MS-69.” The Knoxville-Lull 1853 ‘Arrows’ Dime is NGC certified “MS-69” with a star for eye appeal. The 1874 dime in this auction was also formerly in the James Lull type set. The Knoxville-Lull 1853 ‘Arrows’ is, in my view, clearly superior to this Lull 1874. B&M-Spectrum auctioned James Lull’s type set in Fort Lauderdale, on Jan. 9, 2005.

Later, this James Lull 1874 dime was in the “Joseph Thomas” Collection, most of which Heritage auctioned in April 2009. This dime then realized $51,750, the exact same price that it realized on Oct. 13, 2011.

Indisputably, this is a cool coin, with appealing natural toning. In my opinion, its grade is not close to the MS-69 level. If many leading experts determined that it really does merit a grade of “69,” then it would have sold for substantially more than $51,750.

V. 1805 Quarter

An 1805 quarter in this auction is a pleasing representative of a Very Fine grade Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle quarter. This 1805 quarter is PCGS graded VF-20 and has a sticker from the CAC.

The 1805 quarter issue is not a rarity. Quarters of the Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle type are somewhat scarce overall. Also, many circulated Draped Bust quarters are ungradable.

This 1805 quarter has pleasant natural toning and very few contact marks. It was well struck on a relatively high quality planchet (prepared blank). While it is not the most attractive Draped Bust Quarter that I have ever seen, it is very appealing in its own way.

The $1495 result for this 1805 quarter is strong, about in the retail price range. This result is, though, a little less than I expected. It was part of the consignment of a collection. If a collector bought it, he or she obtained an especially desirable coin at a very fair price.

VI. 1807 Quarter

An 1807 quarter in this auction is newsworthy because it is one of only four 1807 quarters that have been certified as grading “MS-66” or “MS-67” by the PCGS or the NGC.

The Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle type comprises of only five dates, and a very small number have been certified as grading “MS-66.” The Eliasberg 1807 is the only coin of this type that I have ever seen that merits a MS-67 grade. I wonder if the PCGS and NGC listings, respectively, of one “MS-67” 1807 both refer to the same Eliasberg 1807.

This 1807 is NGC graded “MS-66” and it brought $115,000 in this auction, a strong price. Yes, I know that the PCGS price guide retail value is “$225,000.” This value is a little high in general and my guess is that the PCGS would not grade this coin as “MS-66.” It is relevant that the PCGS price guide value for a “MS-65” 1807 is “$120,000.”

I am not comfortable with this coin. Jim McGuigan and I compared our respective notes regarding this specific coin, and our views are mostly consistent. For decades, Jim has been a recognized expert in pre-1840 U.S. coins. This coin does not have enough eye appeal to merit a 66 grade and does not score very high in the category of originality.

Jim and I both noted a substantially imperfect, sizeable area near the first and second stars on the obverse (front of the coin). It is hard to tell whether the strange texture in this area can be largely explained by U.S. Mint caused imperfections that were later lightly cleaned over by a non-knowledgeable collector or whether the imperfections in this area are indicative of serious problems that came about after this coin left the Philadelphia Mint. If such problems are minor, then this coin grades “64 or 65,” in Jim’s view.

I also asked a leading grading expert of gem quality coins about this 1807. While he declined to be named in this context, he stated that he does “not think” that the grade of this coin is close to the MS-66 range. He also suggested that its grade should be a high end “64 or a 65.”

McGuigan points out that “it is pretty well struck” for a Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle quarter. Yes, the reverse has tremendous detail and Miss Liberty is well struck, too. It is also fair to point out that it has hardly any contact marks. Jim and I are in agreement that, if it has serious problem and it may have, it should not have received a numerical grade. It otherwise grades at least 64, in accordance with prevailing grading standards. The $115,000 result is really more than I expected this coin to bring. The price realized was strong.

VII. 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter

My favorite silver coin in this auction is an 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Liberty Seated Quarter. Because the 1853 ‘Arrows & Rays’ Liberty Seated Quarter is a famous one-year type coin, collectors sometimes forget that the 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter is very scarce, or perhaps rare, in all grades. In contrast, thousands of 1853 ‘Arrows & Rays’ Quarters exist, though these will always be more valuable because they are needed for many type sets. Even so, Mark Feld emphasizes that the 1853 ‘No Arrows’ quarter is “a really tough” date to find in gem grades.

This 1853 quarter is NGC graded MS-67 and has a sticker from the CAC. The NGC holder is of an early vintage as it lacks a hologram on the back. On average, though not nearly always, coins in early PCGS or NGC holders tend to be worth more than equivalently certified coins in later holders.

The catalogue indicates that this coin is from “The George Marin Collection.” It is certainly much more appealing than the Richmond Collection 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter, which DLRC auctioned on March 7, 2005 for $11,212.50 and Heritage auctioned in Jan. 2007 for $13,800. The Richmond coin is also NGC graded “MS-67.”

This Marin 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter is a wonderful coin. It features exceptional natural toning, with soft blue centers and orange-russet outer fields. Other shades of blue and russet are present, as well as some violet hues. In addition, there are almost zero noticeable contact marks. Furthermore, it is sharply struck. It is very attractive to extremely attractive overall. The Marin 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter almost has the eye appeal that would be associated with a MS-68 grade Liberty Seated Quarter.

Mark Feld states that “it looks original and solid for the assigned grade.” I graded this 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Quarter as 67.7 the first time I saw it and as 67.6 the second time. Later, I found that my interpretation of this coin is extremely consistent with that of Matt Kleinsteuber. This is a “very nice coin, solid 67, maybe 67 plus,” Matt declares. Kleinsteuber is the lead trader and grader for NFC coins.

The Marin MS-67 1853 ‘No Arrows’ Liberty Seated Quarter sold for $21,850. In my view, this is a very fair price, less than I expected.

VIII. 1878 Carson City Quarter

The 1878-CC Liberty Seated Quarter in this sale was also “From the George Marin Collection,” according to the catalogue. Mr. Marin had some excellent coins. Furthermore, Carson City, Nevada Mint coins tend to have a special allure and a devoted following. (Please see my report about a set of CC Half Eagles that was sold privately in 2010.) Some people collect only Carson City Mint coins and others integrate Carson City Mint coins into extended type sets, especially sets that include representatives of each Branch Mint.

The Marin 1878-CC quarter is PCGS graded “MS-66” and has a CAC sticker. “A coin with a highly pleasing appearance, particularly on the obverse,” says Mark Feld about this 1878-CC. Mark “wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see it in a 67 holder one day.”

Like several of the other coins in this collection, this 1878-CC quarter is in an old holder. This one is from the 1980s. Unless such an old holder is badly scratched or damaged, it is usually a good idea for the old holder to be maintained. Coins in old PCGS or NGC holders often realize premiums in auctions.

I very much like this coin. There is no doubt that its grade is at least in the middle of the MS-66 range. Moreover, it has terrific cartwheel luster. The obverse has much appealing natural toning. The reverse is mostly white and brilliant. The Marin 1878-CC is more than very attractive. This quarter deservedly brought an extremely strong price, $12,650.

IX. Two 1901-S Quarters

The leading key date in the series of Barber Quarters is the 1901-S. Indeed, this is one of the most valuable of all 20th century coin issues. Even in Good-04 condition, a 1901-S Barber Quarter may retail for more than $4000! Tens of thousands of collectors fervently demand 1901-S Quarters. In this auction, there were two ‘Mint State’ 1901-S Quarters.

The more highly certified of the two is NGC graded “MS-66” with an NGC awarded star for eye appeal. Although no pedigree is mentioned in the catalogue, I note that Heritage auctioned this exact same 1901-S quarter in April 2009 for $80,500, when coin markets in general bottomed out. It was then part of the “Joseph Thomas” Collection. Moreover, I believe that I have identified it as being the Richmond Collection 1901-S, which DLRC auctioned on March 7, 2005 in Baltimore. I was not thrilled about it when I saw it then either. I covered the DLRC sales of the Richmond Collection for Numismatic News newspaper. If my pedigree research is correct, this same 1901-S quarter sold for $66,125 in 2005.

Matt Kleinsteuber recollects that this coin reminded him of “Mint State 1913-S quarters because most of them are semi-prooflike like this 1901-S.” Matt says that his coin is “okay for a 6 star” and he “likes it.”

I did not grade it as “MS-66.” I acknowledge, however, that it is flashy and cool in an unusual way. It is entertaining.

The Richmond-Thomas 1901-S just sold for $86,250 on Oct. 13th. While other certified MS-66 1901-S quarters are or should be worth more, this amount is a strong price for this specific coin.

I am more enthusiastic about the NGC graded MS-64 1901-S Barber Quarter in this auction. It has a CAC sticker. Kleinsteuber remarks that it is a “very nice coin, [with] wonderful blue and red original toning, a true gem, [should] really grade 65.”

Although the catalogue does not indicate that is from “the George Marin Collection,” it is in a very ‘old’ holder like many of the coins from the Marin collection. I recommend that the buyer keep this coin in its present ‘old’ holder rather than ‘crack it out’ to seek a “MS-64+” or “MS-65” grade. Great coins in old holders really impress experts and excite collector-buyers. Besides, it may not upgrade.

This 1901-S is exceptionally original overall and has terrific multi-colored natural toning. Viewing it was very pleasurable.

©2011 Greg Reynolds

Half Dime Enjoyed a Long History

By Tom LaMarre, Coins Magazine
May 10, 2011

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The five-cent “nickel” has been around more than 140 years, but it’s just a youngster compared to the silver half dime. The half dime originated during George Washington’s presidency and lasted until 1873, seven years after the nickel’s arrival made the it redundant.

The Act of April 2, 1792, authorized the half dime four months before construction of the Mint began.

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Initially, it was called the “half disme,” but its pronunciation and background are mostly a matter of speculation. Hard facts about the first half dismes are as scarce as the coins themselves.

At the heart of the tangle is President George Washington’s alleged connection. Silver was scarce when the first half dismes were struck. According to the A Guide Book of United States Coins, Washington provided about $100 worth of his own silver for the first half dismes. However, documentation of the legend is mainly hearsay repetition of a story that has been passed down for generations.

“Possibly,” “might have been” or “may have been” are recurring words in the case of the first half dismes. Possibly, Martha Washington served as the model for the Liberty portrait after her husband rejected presidential portraits on coins as a monarchial practice.

Surrounding the Liberty portrait is the legend “LIB. PAR. OF SCIENCE & INDUSTRY.” A flying eagle highlights the reverse, with the inscriptions “HALF DISME” and “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

Robert Birch and Adam Eckfeldt may have engraved the designs, but no one knows for sure. The exact status of the first half dismes—whether they were patterns or regular issues—has also been debated.

A unique copper 1792 half disme exists, unquestionably a pattern. In July 1792, about 1,500 silver half dismes were struck. Some collectors classify them as the first coins minted by the government. Because the Philadelphia Mint was still under construction, the half dismes may have been struck in the cellar of John Harper’s saw-maker shop.

Most surviving 1792 half dismes are worn, lending credibility to their classification as regular issues. Their distribution and background were the subjects of a note discovered in the flyleaf of a book in the 1940s. Dated April 9, 1844, and attributed to Mint melter and refiner Jonas McClintock, it said:

“In conversation with Mr. Adam Eckfeldt today at the Mint, he informed me that the half dismes above described were struck at the request of Gen. Washington to the extent of one hundred dollars, which sum he deposited in bullion or specie for that purpose.

“Mr. Eckfeldt thinks that Gen. Washington distributed them as presents. Some were sent to Europe, but the greater number of them, he believes, were given to acquaintances in Virginia. No more of them were coined except those for Gen. Washington.

“They were never designed as currency—the Mint was not at the time fully ready for going into operation. The coining machinery was in the cellar of Mr. Harper’s saw-maker at the corner of Cherry and Sixth Streets, at which place these pieces were struck.”

However, researchers have questioned the accuracy of the note or “memorandum,” if not its authenticity. Was some of Eckfeldt’s information based on hearsay? Was his recollection of events reliable more than half a century later?

George Washington’s account was more basic and irrefutable. In his November 1792 annual address, he wrote, “There has been a small beginning in the coinage of half dismes, the want of small coins in circulation calling the first attention to them.”

The Mint opened in 1793 but produced only cents and half cents that year. In 1794, engraver Robert Scot worked on a new design in anticipation of the start of half dime production at the Philadelphia Mint.

A unique 1794 copper pattern has the same portrait of Liberty with flowing hair as the regular issue that followed, but it lacks the obverse stars. The reverse depicts an eagle within a wreath, similar to the design accepted for full-scale production, but with “HALF DISME” below the eagle.

On other 1794 pattern half dismes, the denomination is omitted, and stars frame the Liberty portrait.

The combined mintage of 1794 and 1795 Flowing Hair half dimes was fewer than 90,000. I use the “half dime” spelling because of its predominance in numismatic reference books, even though the revised spelling does not seem to have been officially recognized until the early 1800s.

In 1796, the Flowing Hair dime gave way to Scot’s Draped Bust design. The new half dime retained the small eagle reverse.

It was a banner year for varieties, including 1796/5 and 1796 “LIKERTY” half dimes. The “LIKERTY” variety is not an “error” coin as sometimes described. It was struck from a damaged die missing a portion of the “B.”

At first the intention was for the half dime to have a star for each state. The concept was eventually abandoned as impractical. Sometimes, human error resulted in variations in the number of stars. In 1797, for example, half dimes were struck with 13, 15 or 16 stars.

In 1800, the half dime received a heraldic eagle reverse inspired by the Great Seal of the United States. Years later, even the dime was exempted from the requirement of having an eagle on the reverse because it was too small. However, the early half dimes demonstrate there was really no basis for the exemption.

During the Draped Bust half dime’s production run, damaged or worn tools and equipment and makeshift techniques continued to result in varieties. The 1800 “LIKERTY” half dime resulted from a broken “R” punch. The 1803 “large 8” half dime was a crude improvisation—a worker joined two rough circles to make an “8.”

The most famous Draped Bust half dime, however, is the 1802, which had a mintage of only 3,060. Unbelievably, Ernest Gambs of St. Louis found one in pocket change more than 75 years after it was struck.

“Another 1802 Half Dime Discovered,” said the headline in the September 1879 issue of Mason’s Coin Collectors’ Journal. The story did not mention Gambs’ name but said the coin had been found in St. Louis.

Gambs was a prominent stamp and coin dealer. His biography in the February 1888 issue of The Badger State Philatelist, published in Delavan, Wis., included information about his 1802 half dime.

“One of the finest and most valuable American pieces,” it said, “which Mr. Gambs was the fortunate possessor of, was a very fine 1802 half dime, which he secured by chance in an old grocery store on Elm Street, in change. It was sold for $50 to William P. Brown, the pioneer coin and stamp dealer of New York.

“Mr. Brown refused $200 for it, but later sold it at auction, only bringing $147.50, being much less than he had anticipated.

“The third time, however, it was advertised at auction and pronounced the finest of 1802 half dimes ever discovered in this or any other country. It brought $176, and was knocked down to a Philadelphia numismatic speculator, who sold it afterward for $225, nearly 5,000 times its face value.”

In a poem published in The Numismatist in the 1890s, A.G. Heaton referred to the 1802 half dime as one of the “silver barons,” meaning it ranked among the nobility of numismatic rarities.

At the sale of the James B. Wilson Collection in 1908, an About Uncirculated 1802 half dime realized $715. Ninety years later, the same coin brought $84,000.

No half dimes were struck in 1804. Only 15,600 were minted in 1805. From 1806-1828, there was another lapse in production, which must have led people to wonder if the half dime would ever return.

In 1829, it did make a comeback in grand style. The new half dime had a Capped Bust obverse design by engraver William Kneass. An eagle and shield appeared on the reverse, and below it the inscription “5 C.” for “five cents.” It was the first time the denomination was indicated on the half dime.

Even more significant than the new design was the increased production of half dimes. In 1829, more than 1.2 million were struck. Production jumped to nearly 3 million in 1836, including “small 5 C.,” “large 5 C.” and “3 over inverted 3” varieties.

In 1837, the final year of the Capped Bust half dime, “small 5 C.” and “large 5C.” varieties were again struck.

The half dime changed to the seated Liberty design during 1837. Engraved by Christian Gobrecht, the seated Liberty obverse was designed by Thomas Sully, a painter of portraits and historical scenes. The seated Liberty figure was inspired by the rendition of Britannia on some British coins.

The lack of stars on the obverse of early Seated Liberty half dimes gives them the appearance of medalets instead of coins, in my opinion. Of all the early Seated Liberty coins, only the early dimes share the half dime’s uncluttered look.

On the reverse, the eagle and shield gave way to a wreath around the inscription “HALF DIME.” The legend “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” formed a border.

The Philadelphia Mint struck more than 1.5 million Seated Liberty half dimes in 1837. Collectors later distinguished “small date” and “large date” varieties.

Seated Liberty half dimes struck from 1837 to 1840 did not have drapery from Liberty’s elbow. It was added during 1840 and reflected an artistic obsession with the placement, number of folds and their arrangement in works derived from classical forms.

It was considered such a vital matter that an outside artist was commissioned to modify the seated Liberty figure. Sculptor Robert Ball Hughes, known to his friends simply as “Ball,” was paid $75 for his efforts, although it took some time for the payment to be approved.

The changes to the half dime were so slight that a casual observer wouldn’t have noticed them. Thirteen stars were added to the half dime’s obverse during 1838. The same year, the New Orleans Mint struck the first branch-mint half dimes, distinguished by an “O” below the wreath. The 1838-O half dime had a mintage of 70,000.

Long ago, collectors believed in the existence of 1837-O half dimes. “We have two worn specimens of 1837,” Heaton wrote in 1893, “without stars and sufficient traces of a small ‘o’ in the proper place to convince us that some half dimes were coined experimentally in New Orleans that year with a die similar to the one used in Philadelphia, although the New Orleans Mint was not regularly organized until 1838. As the coinage of half dimes at New Orleans in the latter year was not recorded, though well known, we are the more assured of the authenticity of our ’37 ‘O’ Mint pieces which were found in New Orleans, and we consider them excessively rare.”

There were not many numismatists in the United States in the 1830s, and collecting coins by mintmark did not catch on in a big way until the early 1900s.

In the case of the general public, there was a modest degree of interest in the work of the branch mints. Four years after it began, New Orleans’ half dime production was in the news. The April 6, 1842, issue of the Wellsboro, Pa., Tioga Eagle reported, “The United States branch Mint at New Orleans coined half dimes during the month of February.” Total production of 1842-O half dimes amounted to 350,000.

The rarest New Orleans half dimes of the 1840s are the 1840 “medium O,” 1841 “large O,” 1844 “large O” and 1848 “small O” varieties.

At the Philadelphia Mint, only 27,000 half dimes were struck in 1846, the lowest mintage of the 1840s.

To indicate a weight reduction specified by the Act of Feb. 21, 1853, arrows were added at the sides of the date on half dimes struck from 1853-1855. Many 1853 Philadelphia and 1853-O half dimes were melted after the new standard went into effect.

In 1858, there was a run on an Indiana bank. When someone presented $1,000 of its paper money for redemption, the notes were paid with half dimes—20,000 to be exact. Even so, they hardly would have made a dent in the Philadelphia Mint’s output of 3.5 million 1858 half dimes.

At that time the silver three-cent piece had been in production for seven years. Known as the “trime,” it robbed the half dime of the distinction of being the smallest silver coin in size and denomination. The three-cent piece was also useful for many of the transactions for which a half dime would have been convenient.

In 1859, the Philadelphia Mint used a new die to strike half dimes with hollow-center stars and a Liberty figure with thinner arms.

The legend “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” was transferred from the reverse to the obverse in 1860. Fantasy half dimes dated 1859 and 1860 were struck without “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” on either side.

The half dime received a thicker wreath beginning in 1860, sometimes referred to as a “wreath of cereals.”

A curious aspect of the half dime involved the placement of the mintmark. It appeared below the bow tying the wreath branches from 1860 through 1869; above the bow in 1870 and 1871; above or below the bow in 1872; and below the bow in 1873. The location seems to have been a matter of personal preference and was not considered of major importance.

Like all silver and gold coins, half dimes disappeared from circulation during the Civil War. According to an 1862 newspaper item, half dimes were as rare in New York City as they were in Richmond, Va.

The San Francisco Mint began striking half dimes in 1863, turning out 100,000.

Construction of the second San Francisco Mint, known as “The Granite Lady,” started in 1870. No 1870-S half dimes were struck for circulation, but a single example may have been struck for placement in the cornerstone of the new Mint.

In 1978, an 1870-S half dime surfaced in a box of old coins taken to an Illinois dealer. It might be a duplicate of the purported cornerstone coin, or possibly it was intended for the cornerstone but never made it.

At a Superior Galleries auction in 1986, the 1870-S half dime brought $253,000.

Half dimes were popular in California. In 1879, however, the San Francisco Call said, “The scarcity of silver five-cent pieces has been marked for some time.”

It was an interesting report because the Coinage Act of 1873 had eliminated the half dime. The main reason for its demise was the introduction of the five-cent “nickel” in 1866. It was easier to handle than the tiny half dime and was not subject to hoarding.

However, nickels were struck only at the Philadelphia Mint before 1912, and they did not circulate in the West. As Heaton put it, the half dime was “peculiarly the coin of the people, for in the extreme South and West no smaller denomination has ever been in use.”

In the 1880s, Californians petitioned the government to revive the silver half dime, but it was to no avail.

Elsewhere, it took around 20 years for half dimes to fade away.

“Since the half dime was abolished in 1873,” Heaton wrote, “the inconvenience of the small piece has resulted in the annual remittance to the Treasury and the Mints of hundreds of dollars worth which streetcar companies, etc., are glad to have destroyed. Consequently, very few half dimes now exist in circulation. Their general scarcity and rarity is augmenting, and the small space a collection occupies will assure them ever-increasing favor.”

Many obsolete half dimes were holed for use on bracelets and other jewelry. Others were mounted on stickpins or made into clothing buttons. As a result, some surviving half dimes have a damaged reverse.

Damaged half dimes were so common they were a nuisance. The Aug. 10, 1881, issue of the Decatur Daily Review reported, “The number of defaced coins—silver half dimes worn smooth and having holes bored in them—which are in circulation in New Orleans, causes the Democrat of that city to make an investigation.”

By the turn of the century, holed U.S. half dimes were circulating in Cuba with a value of 2.5 cents, according to an item in The Numismatist.

Many half dimes that were still intact were melted to provide silver for the 1892-93 Columbian Exposition commemorative half dollars. An 1892 law authorized the coinage of millions of “souvenir” half dollars “to be manufactured from uncurrent subsidiary silver coins now in the Treasury.”

For years the half dime’s size and denomination had set it apart from other U.S. coins. But its small size was also a negative factor, and the release of the five-cent “nickel” diminished the half dime’s function.

Yet the story didn’t end there. Once considered an important part of the monetary system—the first coin struck by the government—the half dime found new roles as an adornment for jewelry and treasure for coin collectors.

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Many ways to collect Seated design

November 22, 2010
by  Ginger Rapsus

Summary

All those Seated Liberty coins. What’s a collector to do? Finding a set-within-a-set can enable a Seated Liberty fan to complete a set to his liking.

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All those Seated Liberty coins. What’s a collector to do? Six different denominations, rarities, dates and mintmarks, spanning 54 years. Even for a devoted fan of the series, completing any set of these classic American coins seems hopeless.

Or is it?  Finding a set-within-a-set can enable a Seated Liberty fan to complete a set to his liking. Take each denomination within the series, and see how a nice collection can be assembled, maybe without a big cash outlay.

Tiny half dimes were minted until 1873, with the Seated Liberty design first appearing in 1837. The first year coin featured an obverse with no stars, giving a cameo effect to the design. Popular and in demand from type collectors, this “no stars” coin is costly in higher grades.  Why not begin a half dime set featuring the “with stars” obverse? The set begins with the 1838 date, and continues through 1859.
If you concentrate on finding one specimen of each date, not worrying about the famous varieties with and without arrows at the date, you can build a meaningful collection.

 

Mintage figures were fairly good, except for the 1846.  Check out the values for these early coins. Most of the “with stars” half dimes are not expensive at all, especially considering these are small coins over 150 years old.  How many survive in all grades?

Half dime lovers know that many of these little pieces were well worn, scratched, marked, bent, or otherwise abused. A collector who takes the time to look for nice coins, and is a bit fussy about appearance, eye appeal and strike, can come up with some beautiful coins.  A good magnifier is essential.

The collector of early half dimes also has the satisfaction of knowing his collection is not a modern common set, in high grades, that any well-heeled collector can buy in one fell swoop. Early half dimes are truly numismatically desirable and are something special to the collector who appreciates the beauty and scarcity of Seated Liberty coinage.

A set of later date half dimes, featuring the legend “United States of America” on the obverse and a different wreath on the reverse, can also be fun and challenging to build, although the cash outlay may be a bit higher. Prices for better grade coins are somewhat higher than prices for the “stars on obverse” coins. A half dime set from 1860-1873, the end of the series, is a short set but historical and desirable.

The Seated Liberty dimes of the same years bear the same design motif as their companion half dimes. Prices for these early dimes are quite a bit higher than prices for half dimes. A date set of these dimes would be a wonderful set for its scarcity. Look at some of the mintage figures.  Even the most common pieces have mintages of a million or less. The dime with the highest mintage, the 1853 with arrows at the date, has a mintage of over 12 million.  Compare that to the mintages of common coins selling for uncommon prices.

Later dated  Seated Liberty dimes with “United States of America” on the obverse can prove to be a more difficult and expensive set to put together. Prices are robust, but when you learn more about the series and recognize what scarce coins they really are, a collector may feel that any dime of these dates is an incredible bargain.

Don’t forget the short-lived 20-cent coin, a short set in itself. The four circulation issue coins (1875-P, -S, -CC, and the 1876-P) comprise a small set that not many collectors can own, or aspire to own.  If you want something different, try a set of 20-cent pieces.

Seated Liberty quarters are not exactly number one on the collecting hit parade.  Many dates are available for reasonable prices. If you cannot manage a full set, from 1838-1891, try a set of either “no motto” or “with motto” quarters. Try a date set without the many varieties, with and without arrows, with and without drapery on Liberty’s arm. The earlier dates, lacking the motto “In God We Trust,” can be located for better prices than you would think. These classic coins, over 150 years old, are not in as high demand as certain modern coins. You may have to do some real searching, but you will be rewarded with a set of genuinely scarce United States quarters. 

Check out the mintage figures. None has a mintage of even a million until 1853, with over 15 million struck. Prices of dates such as 1843, 1844, 1845, are not bad at all in high-grade circulated condition.
Quarters with motto are scarcer and more expensive. Try a date set, perhaps in better grades, for a real challenge.  Everyone in the collecting community will not be seeking these 19th century issues, but some dates are difficult to find.  And study the mintage figures. Look at the 1870 with a mintage of 86,400. The 1862, a Civil War year quarter, has a mintage of less than a million. The 1872, with a mintage of 182,000, is another date available at a decent price.

Seated Liberty half dollars are larger and show off the design to better advantage than the smaller coins.  Here’s another big set that can be broken up to form a set-within-a-set of really scarce coins.  Half dollars come in “no motto” and “with motto” types, just like the quarters, spanning the same years.  Try a set of the “no motto” coins. Many dates are scarce and are not priced too badly – if you can find these coins. The 1845, with a mintage of only 589,000, is a great example.

If you prefer the “with motto” type, you can find many dates of half dollars that are reasonably priced. Collect one of each date. Maybe you like issues of the New Orleans Mint and you can collect these. The Carson City fan can find a number of coins, but they are costly, especially the 1870, from the Carson City Mint’s first year of operation. San Francisco Mint coins are always popular, but there is one rarity: the 1878-S, with a mintage of only 12,000.

The last few years of the Seated Liberty half dollar saw very low mintages, except for the very last year of 1891. The dates of 1882 and 1884 had mintages of only 4,400 each year. How many still survive, in any grade?  And these figures are for regular issue half dollars, not proofs. A set of the last years of this type, from 1879-1891, can form a really unusual set of beauty and rarity.  Not many collectors can hope to own a set like that, but it is there if you truly desire something different.

Silver dollars are always a favorite with collectors. Many numismatists seek complete runs of Morgan or Peace dollars.  The Seated Liberty dollars are much scarcer, and many dates are expensive, but what an impressive set they make.  These coins, too, come in “no motto” and “with motto” types.  Try a date set of “no motto” Seated dollars.  Most were struck at Philadelphia. Look at the mintage of the first year 1840, and its prices, and compare with the more common 1842.  Not much difference.  Keep in mind these are large silver coins, many melted for their silver content, or shipped overseas in the export trade. How many of these coins still exist?

Collect the Seated dollars of the San Francisco Mint for a nice short set. The 1872-S, with a mintage of only 9,000, is another scarce Seated Liberty coin available for a good price. Carson City fans can collect one of each issue – only four dates, but what a rare and desirable set this would make.

Seated Liberty collectors have so many choices when putting together a set of coins. You can build a type set of all Seated coins. Collect the coins of your favorite mint, or a certain historical decade. Save a specimen of each variety, including the coins with and without drapery, the coins with arrows at the date, with and without stars, with and without motto. This classic design was used for many years, and many different sets-within-a-set can be custom designed by you from any or all denominations.  If you decide to pursue a set of Seated coins, you can end up with a beautiful set with true scarcity.

Branch Mint Half Dimes Start With ‘O’

By Paul M. Green, Numismatic News
October 29, 2010

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When the 1838-O half dime was produced it was the first half dime to be issued at a mint other than the main facility in Philadelphia. It would be the start of an interesting group of frequently lesser known coins as the branch mint Seated Liberty half dimes are not heavily collected but they are a fascinating group to study and with limited collector demand they are also a collection of early silver coins that are usually at very affordable prices.

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There was a very good reason why the no stars 1838-O half dime was the first half dime produced outside Philadelphia. Prior to 1838 there were no other facilities where they could have been made. It was an accident of timing that just as the design of the half dime was being changed the United States was also opening its first branch mints. The one where the new half dime could be made was New Orleans as the new facilities at Dahlonega, Ga., and Charlotte, N.C., would only produce gold coins, leaving only New Orleans as a possibility for the production of half dimes.

Realistically the 1838 production came at a time when the half dime was really getting established as a regular, annually produced denomination for what might be seen as the first time in its history. Historically, although officials had always complained that the half dime was needed in commerce, its production had never reflected the complaints. The half dime as the lowest silver denomination had simply never been produced in the numbers or with the regularity one might expect. In fact, the first regular production of half dimes had only begun in 1829. Prior to that year the most recent production of half dimes had been all the way back in 1805, so the half dime could hardly be called a regularly produced denomination.

The first Seated Liberty half dime was produced in 1837 in Philadelphia, but in 1838 New Orleans would produce the same type. In fact, the 1838-O along with the 1837 from Philadelphia would rank as the only two dates of the type that did not have stars around the rim on the obverse.

Ironically, the 1838 from Philadelphia would have stars, but it would take until 1839 for stars to appear on the coins from New Orleans. That situation was probably a result of the fact that the whole idea of branch mints at the time was new. The dies for the coins would be made in Philadelphia and then shipped to New Orleans for use. There was naturally a delay and that was probably compounded by the fact that the facility at New Orleans was new. It probably took added time for the workers there to receive the die and make it ready for use. As a result, there was something of an in-built delay when it came to changing designs.

The first New Orleans half dime, the 1838-O, had a modest mintage of just 70,000 pieces. That small mintage would normally suggest a high price, but at $110 in G-4 you have to feel that the historic 1838-O, which is low mintage as well as the first half dime produced outside Philadelphia, is a good deal. In Mint State the 1838-O lists for $2,500 in MS-60 and $29,500 in MS-65. If we check the Professional Coin Grading Service to see if those prices are also good values we find that PCGS has so far graded just 13 examples of the 1838-O as Mint State and of that total only one was called MS-65 or better. Under those circumstances the 1838-O in any grade looks to be a good value on a very historic and interesting coin.

In 1839 the dies would be ready for New Orleans to produce a half dime with stars around the rim. The mintage of the 1839-O was 1,034,039 pieces, which makes it a reasonably available date with a price of $26.50 in G-4. In MS-60 the 1839-O is $730 while an MS-65 is at $6,850. Those Mint State prices cannot be called available date prices simply because the amount of saving around New Orleans at the time and realistically throughout the history of the facility was very limited. Moreover, the collectors of the period did not as a rule collect by date and mint and that leaves us with a situation where the Mint State coins from the branch mints are usually much tougher than those from Philadelphia. In this case we find that PCGS reports only 16 examples of the 1839-O in Mint State and just two of them reached MS-65. That would seem to make any Mint State example but especially an MS-65 a great value at today’s prices.

The evolution of the Seated Liberty design is seen in the 1840-O, which had a mintage of 935,000. Most were of the old design, which had no drapery at Liberty’s left elbow, while the latter ones had the drapery. The latter ones with the drapery are tougher in circulated grades listing for $51 in G-4 while the no drapery type is $28.50. In the case of Mint State coins the type without the drapery is $1,250 in MS-60 while the with drapery type is $6,500 in MS-60. Both types are tough, with PCGS reporting 11 Mint State examples of the no drapery type and just one example of a Mint State 1840-O with the drapery.

The 1841-O would have a mintage of 815,000, which makes it a relatively available New Orleans date at $20 in G-4, $650 in MS-60 and $6,750 in MS-65. While relatively available in circulated grades, the 1841-O is still a tough date in Mint State even if the prices do not reflect that fact as PCGS reports only 10 examples with just a single MS-67 reaching the MS-65 or better designation.

The 1842-O with a mintage of just 350,000 is not as available with a G-4 price of $38. Realistically when you consider that mintage, a $38 price has to be seen as a good value and so is the $2,250 MS-60 price as PCGS reports only about a dozen examples and only one of them was called MS-65 or better.

There was no New Orleans half dime mintage in 1843 and that was followed by a very modest 1844 total of 220,000. Just compare that total to the 264,000 of the 1916-D Mercury dime, which is now $1,000 in G-4 and you see what a good value the 1844-O is at just $80 in G-4. Of course that price also shows how limited the demand is for Seated Liberty half dimes, but that could always change. In Mint State the 1844-O is $5,400 in MS-60 and $27,500 in MS-65 and the prices seem fair with only seven examples called Mint State and just one of those MS-65.

The next New Orleans Seated Liberty half dime would be the 1848-O, which is a relatively available date at $20 in G-4 with an MS-60 at $450 and an MS-65 at $2,450. The 1849-O, however, is another matter as it has a longstanding reputation as a tough date probably in part because its mintage of just 140,000 was the lowest stretching back to the 1838-O. The 1849-O has a price of $29 in G-4, which is really modest considering that mintage and $2,350 in MS-60. PCGS has yet to report an example in MS-65.

The situation regarding silver coins became complicated in the early 1850s because the discovery of gold in California upset the traditional gold to silver ratio in favor of silver. That meant that the cost of producing silver coins was passing their face value and that saw widespread hoarding resulting in a national coin shortage. In some cases we see lower mintages during the period, but the 1850-O and 1851-O had what might be called average New Orleans mintages with totals of at least 690,000 in the case of the 1851-O, which make the two dates relatively available at least in circulated grades.

The first indication of a possibly lower mintage was the 1852-O, which had a mintage of just 260,000, which produces a $25 G-4 price. In MS-60 the 1852-O is $885 but in MS-65 it is $11,500 as PCGS has seen only one example in that grade.

The 1853-O was even lower mintage at 160,000 and the expectation is that it and the 1852-O of the same type were possibly melted. The low mintage puts the 1853-O at $285 in G-4 and that price suggests that melting was very likely involved. The 1853-O is $6,450 in MS-60 and $27,500 in MS-65 where PCGS reports just one example.

The Congress took action in early 1853 to slightly reduce the weight of silver coins and that meant that the half dimes with the slightly lower silver composition were marked with arrows at the date. That would continue for the 1853-O mintage of 2,200,000 as well as the 1854 and 1855 totals. All are available, although the 1855-O did have a mintage of just 600,000, but that results only in a small premium in G-4 while in MS-60 and MS-65 the three dates are in basically the same price range, although the 1855-O is better in MS-60 where it lists for $545as opposed to $315 and $240 for the other two. In MS-65, however, the three are in a range from $3,950 to $4,950 and the most expensive is the 1855-O.

In 1856 the arrows at the date were removed and the type would last through 1859. Of the dates involved, the lowest mintage was the 1859-O, which had a mintage of just 560,000, which again produces a small premium in G-4 and circulated grades but not significantly higher prices in Mint State as in Mint State the toughest of the dates involved is the 1856-O which lists for $470 in MS-60 and $2,350 in MS-65. The slightly higher prices of the 1856-O seem to be supported by the fact that it has been graded just 21 times by PCGS. In reality the totals of examples seen in Mint State from New Orleans during this period show a slight increase over the numbers seen in the case of dates from the 1840s. It might have been a case of a small amount of additional collecting activity at the time in the New Orleans area as realistically these 1850s consistently show numbers of 40 and up in Mint State at PCGS where even in the early 1850s the number of Mint State pieces seen were roughly one-half that total.

The final New Orleans half dime was the 1860-O, which had a mintage of 1,060,000. The 1860-O is an available date even in MS-65 where it lists for $1,375. The PCGS total for the 1860-O in MS-65 and up is 21, which includes a couple in both MS-66 and MS-67. It may be that a couple especially nice examples were saved by someone at the time sensing that with the looming Civil War the facility would be quickly closed and that was the case as by the time the New Orleans facility would resume coin production the half dime was no longer being produced.

While New Orleans was ending coin production because of the war out in San Francisco coin production that had begun back in 1854 was cranking up. The half dime, however, appears to have not been a priority for the San Francisco facility. There was some reason as the facility was small and probably not capable of the production desired, but even with that consideration it was odd that the first San Francisco Seated Liberty half dime did not come until 1863, virtually a decade after the facility had first opened. The 1863-S would have a mintage of 100,000 which results in a $35 price in G-4. As was typical of branch mints the issues of San Francisco would have little saving of Mint State examples as they were released and that results in a price of $1,250 for an MS-60 1863-S while an MS-65 is $3,450. The PCGS totals for the 1863-S do show nearly 40 Mint State examples with 13 of them being MS-65 or better so even with limited saving the trend of higher numbers available in Mint State continued.

The 1864-S had a slightly lower mintage of 90,000 pieces, but despite just a 10 percent mintage difference between the 1864-S and 1863-S the prices are significantly higher for the 1864-S with a G-4 at nearly twice the price of an 1863-S at $60. In Mint State the 1864-S lists for $785 while an MS-65 is at $3,750. The prices are justified as PCGS shows lower totals of just 28 examples called Mint State with a dozen being MS-65 or better.

The following three years saw three half dimes from San Francisco with identical mintages as the 1865-S, 1866-S and 1867-S all had mintages of 120,000 pieces. It should be no surprise that all are at basically the same levels in circulated grades. In MS-65, however, all three are very difficult with PCGS reporting just one example of the 1865-S, five of the 1866-S and four of the 1867-S in MS-65 or better.

The final years of San Francisco half dime production with a couple exceptions would follow the basic pattern of dates with mintages in the hundreds of thousands, which makes them available in circulated grades and tougher in Mint State, with some being especially difficult if you want an MS-65 or better. There were 1872-S coins, which in some cases had the mintmark in the wreath and in others it was below the wreath. It is an interesting variety, but with limited collector demand the two are at basically the same prices in all grades today.

The one major exception to the pattern came in 1870. It was the year when the cornerstone was being dedicated for a new San Francisco facility and it was decided to put an 1870-S of all denominations into it. As things worked out there was no plan to produce half dimes, quarters, Seated Liberty dollars or $3 gold pieces at San Francisco that year, so a special example of each was produced for the cornerstone.

Actually a few extra examples were made of the 1870-S dollar, but the assumption was that only one example of the half dime, quarter and $3 were produced and that those three coins were forever buried in the cornerstone.

Then an example of the $3 appeared much to the surprise of everyone. Neither the quarter nor half dime followed until the 1970s when RARCOA announced the discovery of an 1870-S half dime. The news stunned everyone and produced immediate questions about what a unique 1870-S half dime would be worth. According to Q. David Bowers in his book American Coin Treasures and Hoards, a deal was reached where the 1870-S half dime would be sold for $25,000 more than the price of the 1804 dollar being sold as part of the Garrett Collection.

As it turned out that 1804 brought a stunning price of $400,000, which made the 1870-S half dime’s price of $425,000 really too high at the time and a weakening coin market did not help. In a 1985 auction the 1870-S fell back to a price of $176,000. Since then the 1870-S has been rising, although as there is only one example it is rarely offered making it virtually impossible to determine just what a recent price would be.

In 2009 it sold for $1.4 million.

In 1873 the half dime was discontinued. It left an interesting legacy as over 35 years the Seated Liberty half dime had been produced at two branch mints and in those coins we have a number of interesting and tougher dates as well as one great rarity. For the collector today the values are obvious as the prices are low when you consider the mintages. It makes the Seated Liberty half dimes from New Orleans and San Francisco an interesting group to study and a group of great values to collect.

Junk Silver Coins Soar in Value

October 7, 2010 by Silver Coins Today

90% Silver CoinsWith silver prices rallying to levels that have not been seen in 30 years, interest in United States coins that circulated in 1964 and before has skyrocketed. Many of them include silver, and those that do are worth far more than their face values.

Bags and rolls of these “junk silver coins” have become hot items, and harder to find.

Junk silver coins, a term often used to describe older coins that have no real worth to collectors but contain 90% silver, have intrinsic values that have soared right along with silver prices.

Simply stated, “intrinsic value” is the market value of the metals contained within the coin. For example, in more modern terms, a bullion American Silver Eagle contains one troy ounce of silver, making its intrinsic value equal to the current market price of an ounce of silver. As each Silver Eagle only has a legal face value of one US dollar, it becomes clear how the intrinsic value of a coin can be worth much more than the denomination struck on each piece. Some also refer to this as a coin’s melt value.

Keeping that in mind, silver has shown remarkable strength of late, as the price of an ounce on October 6 was fixed in London to $22.92. This is an increase of $5.93, or 34.9%, from where it stood on December 31, 2009.

To show how sharp junk silver coin prices have climbed just this year, the chart below (based on this site’s US Silver Coin Values page) compares the intrinsic values of old United States coinage.

Melt Values for Junk Silver Coins

Silver Coin Types Silver Coin Face
Values
Coin Melt
Values (December 31, 2009)
Coin Melt Values (October 6, 2010) 2010
Increase
1942-1945 Jefferson Nickel
$0.05
$0.96
$1.29
$0.33
1916-1945 Mercury Dime
$0.10
$1.23
$1.66
$0.43
1946-1964 Roosevelt Dime
$0.10
$1.23
$1.66
$0.43
1932-1964 Washington Quarter
$0.25
$3.07
$4.14
$1.07
1916-1947 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
$0.50
$6.15
$8.29
$2.14
1948-1963 Franklin Half Dollar
$0.50
$6.15
$8.29
$2.14
1964 Kennedy Half Dollar
$0.50
$6.15
$8.29
$2.14
1965-1970 Kennedy Half Dollar
$0.50
$2.51
$3.39
$0.88
1878-1921 Morgan Dollar
$1.00
$13.14
$17.73
$4.59
1921-1935 Peace Dollar
$1.00
$13.14
$17.73
$4.59
1971-1976 Eisenhower Dollar (40% Silver)
$1.00
$5.37
$7.25
$1.88
American Silver Eagle (1 oz)
$1.00
$16.99
$22.92
$5.93

 

Coin melt values based on daily silver spot prices may be calculated using this site’s Silver Coin Melt Calculator.

There are a few important things to keep in mind when looking at the intrinsic or melt value of a coin. First of all, the numbers shown above are based on the amount of silver in the coin when it was originally struck by the United States Mint. It does not take into account any wear and tear that a coin may have received during its life, which could result in a slightly lower silver content.

Second, many older coins actually have a higher numismatic value than their intrinsic value. Numismatic values are what a coin is worth on the market to other collectors based on its condition and rarity. A rare coin in excellent condition could be worth many times its face value or its intrinsic value.

Still, for collectors of coins containing silver, it is a good idea to keep the intrinsic value of those coins in mind when contemplating the sale or purchase of them.

Barber Bargains

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Barber Bargains

By Mark Benvenuto, Coins Magazine
September 21, 2010

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You have probably heard plenty of times that gold is at or near record highs, and that silver is higher than it has been for years. This constant barrage of price-related news is almost enough to make a seasoned collector get rid of precious metal coins and focus exclusively on copper—almost.

The seasoned, hardened, savvy collector uses a time like this to go hunting. The hunt is for bargains, and the coins we’ll go after all share a common design. I’m talking the Barber coinage of 1892-1916. That means dimes, quarters, and half dollars.

Dimes

Starting small, Barber dimes are a series worth a long hard look simply because they are true collector coins. Yes, they have silver in them, but only 2.5 grams, which is a tad less than a tenth of an ounce. But that small amount means their value is relatively disconnected from the precious metals market.

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In addition, there are more than 20 different dates and mintmarks within the series that have mintages higher than 10 million. Those numbers make for some pretty common coins. With such totals from which to choose, even a $10 bill will land you some good specimens.

Here’s a few examples: The 1907 and the 1902 lead the pack when it comes to the most common of all the Barber dimes. There are more than 20 million of each, which means you can probably find one in any well-stocked dealer’s inventory. The price for a Very Fine-20 specimen is currently around $8. Certainly, that doesn’t land you a perfect coin, but there’s still plenty of eye appeal when a piece is at VF-20. Jump up a step to an Extremely Fine-40 specimen and the price climbs to about $25, which still isn’t all that bad for a coin that is more than a century old.

With those two dates as a baseline for what is common among the Barber dimes, how low can we go before the prices start to jump? The 1916, for example, which is the last year of these dimes, had 18.4 million as its total and the same prices for the VF and EF grades. That’s to be expected. The 1916-S has a considerably lower mintage of 5.8 million, but again, the same prices. The 1909-O might be considered the next step down, with a mintage of 2.2 million. It commands prices of $25 in VF-20 and $50 in EF-40. It appears that we have found a price line. If we go to lower mintages we do find that rather consistently the prices rise.

Just for the fun of it, let’s see what the price tags are for the rarest of these these coins, ignoring the stunning rarity that is the 1894-S. Well, the 1895-O might claim primacy of place here with a total of 440,000 coins. Prices in VF-20 and EF-40 are $1,200 and $2,500, respectively. That’s a lot of 10-cent pieces you’ll have to pay for that particular one.

Now, curiously, the 1913-S isn’t much more common, with 510,000 struck. Its prices in the two grades I’ve just mentioned? How about $190 and $240? It seems we’ve found something of a sleeper in the less common Barber dimes.

So, among the smallest version of the Barber design we find that there is a tier of very common dates and mintmarks that can still be had in the $10 to $20 range despite high prices for silver metal. We’ve also seen a possibility at the low end of things. That’s worthwhile to know. Now, let’s try to do it again, with quarters.

Quarters

All Barber coins have the same date range (1892-1916), so we have the same span from which to choose both here and among the dimes. The differences, perhaps obviously, will be in what the main mint in Philadelphia, as well as the branch mints in New Orleans, San Francisco, and Denver, chose to produce on an annual basis.

As with the dimes, we need to find out what is common for this series. The two dates that ring in with the highest numbers are the 1899 and the 1902, each with over 12 million to their tallies. Checking out prices, we quickly find that $35 will do the trick for a VF-20 coin and $70 will do for an EF-40 piece.

OK. Those prices can be either the bad news or the good news, depending on how you look at things. They are definitely higher than those of the common Barber dimes. But there’s not too much of a difference and for your extra money you do get some extra silver.

So, armed with a new set of prices for common-date Barber quarters, how low in mintages can we go here and still not have to pay a premium for a good looking coin? In looking at other dates with slightly lower mintages a person can see that the majority of dates and mintmarks were made in the millions. There are only a handful or so that dip below the seven-figure mark. Using the 1914-D as an example, with just over 3 million minted, we find VF and EF prices of $28 and $55, respectively.

How can we have a set of prices for a less common coin that is lower than the prices for the most common dates in the series? The answer to that is that price is about more than just mintage figures. Perhaps the Denver quarters of 1914 struck up better than the Philadelphia quarters of 1899 and 1902. Perhaps more were saved, or never released after making it to bank vaults (a quarter did have a lot of purchasing power then, and dimes were spent more). Perhaps more of the 1899 and 1902 pieces ended up in the melting pots back in the 1980s when the price of silver ran to ridiculously high levels.

Whatever the reason, or reasons, this example gives us another instance in which we can find good cause to get serious with Barber coinage.

With all that being said, the point at which the prices of Barber quarters rise above the price of common-date pieces has to be somewhere in the low millions. To pick a few dates to prove the point, the 1916 has prices that mirror those of the 1914-D I just mentioned. It rings in with 1.7 million.

The 1909-S, though, basically goes for double in the same grades. Some might consider this a comparison of apples and oranges since S-mintmarked coins usually carry a premium. But consider the 1909-O, sister of the 1909-S, and the more scarce coin, with 712,000 to its total. The 1909-O runs $200 in VF-20 and $375 in EF-40, significantly higher than any of the others we have looked at. It seems then that the 1 million mark is a decent point for us to claim that the cost will rise within this series of quarters.

One million of anything still strikes most of us as a lot, but the good news about this is that so many of the Barber quarters have mintages far in excess of it. That in turn means we have a lot from which to choose, despite high silver prices.

Half Dollars

So far we have seen that Barber dimes and quarters still offer quite a bit for the collector who wants to get into this design in depth. Let’s use our formula for common dates and prices one more time and see if it holds for the biggest Barber, the half dollar.

When it comes to highs and lows the half dollars don’t hold a candle to the dimes, but that’s to be expected. After all, with a low of 24 for the dimes (1894-S) and a high in the tens of millions, that’s a big spread to beat. No, the biggest run of Barber halves were the 1899 and 1908-Os, with 5.5 million and 5.3 million, respectively. On the low end of things, the 1913, 1914, and 1915 never made it even made it up to 200,000 pieces (making these three into key coins within the series).

The 1899 and the 1908-O each command about $90 in VF-20 and $180 in EF-40. Those prices can be sore blows if you are the frugal type of collector who draws the line at spending even $20 for a single coin. But they are not actually that bad when you consider that you are landing a pretty good sized hunk of silver for your money. What’s more interesting is just how many other Barbers ring in at $90 in VF-20.

According to a recent issue of Coin Prices, there are 73 different dates and mintmarks from which to choose when assembling a full set of Barber halves (not including varieties). Of those 73, there are 21 that come in at or very near $90 in VF-20. That’s almost one-third of the entire series that can be considered common, or common enough that there are no price fluctuations in that grade.

On the low end of things there is even more good news—the 1915 and the 1913 can be considered sleepers. The 1915 lists for $380 in VF-20 and $575 in EF-40. The 1913 doesn’t go for much more. If you do the comparison you’ll find that the 1915 is roughly 25 times less common than the 1899 and 1908-O. But in the grades I’ve just examined it’s never really more than five times more expensive. As with any sleeper the fact that it is undervalued doesn’t mean it will automatically shoot up in price. But it is neat to know that there are still some bargains to be had, even in a series of half dollars.

Well it appears that you can still go to the Barber and not get completely fleeced. As little as $10 can get you buy in for some good-looking Barber dimes. It takes $35 to do the same for the quarters and $90 for the half dollars, but overall the Barber design remains affordable.

None of the coins we have examined are the crème-de-la-crème of the three denominations, but that means none of them command the huge auction house prices we read about all too often. They all do qualify though as good-looking coins with just a bit of wear on them. If you have passed these Barber coins by in the past, now might be the perfect time to take your hobby and collection in a new direction. Good luck!

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